120M : (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb

[blue166]

So I no need to ask about BT bandwidth and speed.

So if one gets 80/20 with BT what will peak times be like. Again I know each every differs but what is BT infinity like in general in this department?

[AbyssUnderground]

Peak seems unnoticable for me but I think this will vary per cab more than anything. Each cab can hold 288 and a maximum of 5x1Gbps pipes (from what I have read). Even if each one maxes out that's still 50Mbps+ each. Any congestion you will get will probably be at the exchange end or their overall backhaul.

Doing my 6TB+ I haven't seen any signs of congestion and pings seem to be consistent. I'd set up a TBB graph but my IP is dynamic.

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

Peak seems unnoticable for me but I think this will vary per cab more than anything. Each cab can hold 288 and a maximum of 5x1Gbps pipes (from what I have read). Even if each one maxes out that's still 50Mbps+ each. Any congestion you will get will probably be at the exchange end or their overall backhaul.

Doing my 6TB+ I haven't seen any signs of congestion and pings seem to be consistent. I'd set up a TBB graph but my IP is dynamic.

Don't switch your modem/router off and you should keep the same IP more or less indefinitely.

[blue166]

Thanks guys you are very helpful.

Can someone please link me to the exact openreach modem I would require for Infinity 2 (80/20). I have seen some different white openreach modems and am concerned I would buy the wrong one.

Thanks,

[AbyssUnderground]

Unless the connection drops which it does do on occasion You get a new IP when that happens too.

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Originally Posted by blue166

Thanks guys you are very helpful.

Can someone please link me to the exact openreach modem I would require for Infinity 2 (80/20). I have seen some different white openreach modems and am concerned I would buy the wrong one.

Thanks,

They're the same for both Infinity 1 and 2 I believe. The HomeHub5 certainly is so I don't doubt the modem would also be the same.

[craigj2k12]

There are only 2 different VDSL modems, the Huawei and the ECI, the techs give them out depending on what equipment is in the cab, but both will work

[blue166]

Are both types the same or is one regarded better than the other or anything I should know?

(the reason I am after one of these modems from ebay is because I read that openreach no longer carry these modems with them during installs).

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

Peak seems unnoticable for me but I think this will vary per cab more than anything. Each cab can hold 288 and a maximum of 5x1Gbps pipes (from what I have read). Even if each one maxes out that's still 50Mbps+ each. Any congestion you will get will probably be at the exchange end or their overall backhaul.

They're using 10Gbps pipes now I've been told.

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Originally Posted by blue166

Are both types the same or is one regarded better than the other or anything I should know?

(the reason I am after one of these modems from ebay is because I read that openreach no longer carry these modems with them during installs).

Yes they do.

Only BT and a few others supply modem-in-router combos, every of the dozen or more other FTTC ISPs still require the modem.

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Originally Posted by blue166

Thanks guys you are very helpful.

Can someone please link me to the exact openreach modem I would require for Infinity 2 (80/20). I have seen some different white openreach modems and am concerned I would buy the wrong one.

Like I said they allow any VDSL2 modem so the exact type doesn't matter.

[muppetman11]

Interesting read

I'm looking to upgrade to fibre in the coming months when my cab goes live and have a few questions.

1. When the cab was first installed and I checked fibre availability I was given a downstream estimate of around 58mb however I've since been on again and it now estimates 72mb + and 20mb upstream is it normal to change like this , we are pretty close to the cab.

2. Quite a few of the old telephone cabs have been upgraded in our area as well as installing the fibre cabs is this now standard.

3. With an install will they replace wiring from the pole or drop wires ? We have an ancient old grey drop wire and I'm concerned it could impact speeds.

4. So far I've narrowed it down to either BT or Sky , do both now have a 1 box solution or do you still also need the Openreach modem ?

5. What are Plusnet like for fibre ?

[blue166]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

They're using 10Gbps pipes now I've been told.

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Yes they do.

Only BT and a few others supply modem-in-router combos, every of the dozen or more other FTTC ISPs still require the modem.

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Like I said they allow any VDSL2 modem so the exact type doesn't matter.

Would the openreach engineer give me a modem anyway if I asked, or because it would be BT Infinity I am having he would not be allowed to give me one? Should I just buy one in case? I dunno what I should do.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Interesting read

I'm looking to upgrade to fibre in the coming months when my cab goes live and have a few questions.

1. When the cab was first installed and I checked fibre availability I was given a downstream estimate of around 58mb however I've since been on again and it now estimates 72mb + and 20mb upstream is it normal to change like this , we are pretty close to the cab.

Yes.

3. With an install will they replace wiring from the pole or drop wires ? We have an ancient old grey drop wire and I'm concerned it could impact speeds.

No. Unless there is a fault.

4. So far I've narrowed it down to either BT or Sky , do both now have a 1 box solution or do you still also need the Openreach modem ?

Sky still use the modem AFAIK.

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Originally Posted by blue166

Would the openreach engineer give me a modem anyway if I asked, or because it would be BT Infinity I am having he would not be allowed to give me one? Should I just buy one in case? I dunno what I should do.

Pretend you're not on BT Infinity...

[blue166]

Below is how my Virgin Media 120mb graph looked Sunday afternoon/evening. I was doing some stuff with my connection but it is starting to get worse each week. I think I will order BT Infinity 2 tonight and order an openreach standalone modem off ebay just incase the engineer won't give one. What do you guys think?

[AbyssUnderground]

I'd hold off on the modem for now. If he gives you a HH5 then it's got the modem built in. If you want to use your existing router and you want to use port forwarding just set up a DMZ to an IP and connect it to the WAN port on your existing router. It'll just work as normal. I did this myself to begin with on my WRT54GL with DD-WRT (until it died recently).

[blue166]

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

I'd hold off on the modem for now. If he gives you a HH5 then it's got the modem built in. If you want to use your existing router and you want to use port forwarding just set up a DMZ to an IP and connect it to the WAN port on your existing router. It'll just work as normal. I did this myself to begin with on my WRT54GL with DD-WRT (until it died recently).

Will I be going out on the web via my own DNS settings though or through BT's DNS then onto mine like google/opendns?

[AbyssUnderground]

Through whatever your PC or your first router assigns in the loop (your current router in this case) assigns. BT's DNS isn't awful anyway, but I still prefer my own too.