The state benefits system mega-thread.

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by Chris

Your satire isn't very funny.

The simple lesson is this: if you rely on the State for your living, you will get what you need, you may not get all you want.

Have you tried looking in the mirror !!!

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Osborne has said that he will introduce more cuts, to bring everything in order. What he can do is stop giving out handouts to migrants who have just arrived in the UK.

Instead of picking on the people that have worked in this country for years and paid into the system. And all the people that have had there benefit stopped due to ATOS, l read in the media yesterday that MORE people have committed suicide over the Bedroom Tax and sick people being forced back to work - even though they cannot work.

Such as the sick baby that was in the media yesterday, the carer has had her benefit stopped as DWP has stated that the baby is of normal health. See the picture.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1190692/ge...-an-extra-25bn

Read this, this is what this idiot thinks he is going to do.

[Jimi]

Arthur,regarding immigrants,am I correct in saying you read the Daily Mail?

[Gary L]

Everybody reads the Daily Mail.
that's where we get the insider info they don't want you to know, from.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Osborne has said that he will introduce more cuts, to bring everything in order. What he can do is stop giving out handouts to migrants who have just arrived in the UK.

Erm...he has. Migrants must wait 3 months.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Osborne has said that he will introduce more cuts, to bring everything in order. What he can do is stop giving out handouts to migrants who have just arrived in the UK.

Instead of picking on the people that have worked in this country for years and paid into the system. And all the people that have had there benefit stopped due to ATOS, l read in the media yesterday that MORE people have committed suicide over the Bedroom Tax and sick people being forced back to work - even though they cannot work.

Such as the sick baby that was in the media yesterday, the carer has had her benefit stopped as DWP has stated that the baby is of normal health. See the picture.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1190692/ge...-an-extra-25bn

Read this, this is what this idiot thinks he is going to do.

Oh dear Arthur - looks like Labour don't think the Conservatives are being tough enough regarding benefits - this from the new shadow work and pensions secretary.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...reeves-welfare

'Labour will be tougher than the Tories when it comes to slashing the benefits bill, Rachel Reeves, the new shadow work and pensions secretary, has insisted in her first interview since winning promotion in Ed Miliband's frontbench reshuffle.'

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Russ

Erm...he has. Migrants must wait 3 months.

That assumes they haven't been here for 3 months already, ie arrived before Oct 2013. Then they can also become "self employed" by selling the "Big Issue" giving them instant access to several benefits.

Originally Posted by Russ

Erm...he has. Migrants must wait 3 months.

Migrants had to wait 3 months anyway ,they can receive the first 3 months of benefits from their home country ,so in actual fact nothing has changed

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I read three papers - The Mirror, Sun and Express.

I find that migrants should NOT be allowed benefits for at least 12 months to 24 month.

We all know that faked documents can be produced and that the benefit system is terribly flawed.

More checks have to be done.

I watched a programme last year on Saints and Sinners, where this system is terribly flawed - where a council official had come from Ghana and was fiddling the benefit system to pay money to her family abroad and offered her family accommodation and they were not even in this country.

She was fired from her job and jailed for it. This is how easy it was.

[Jimmy-J]

British taxpayers must continue to pay welfare benefits to children living in Poland while their parents work in Britain, the Polish foreign minister insists

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-benefit.html

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I read three papers - The Mirror, Sun and Express.

I find that migrants should NOT be allowed benefits for at least 12 months to 24 month.

We all know that faked documents can be produced and that the benefit system is terribly flawed.

More checks have to be done.

I watched a programme last year on Saints and Sinners, where this system is terribly flawed - where a council official had come from Ghana and was fiddling the benefit system to pay money to her family abroad and offered her family accommodation and they were not even in this country.

She was fired from her job and jailed for it. This is how easy it was.

What, its that easy to get a prison sentence?

Yes the benefit system is flawed but Arthur it isn't just immigrants taking the mickey out of the system we have enough home grown to be a problem although not quite the scale of problem politicians want us to believe. Sadly this will continue because this government is doing absolutely sod all to make the system less easily used just indulging in headline grabbing soundbites that make little or no difference to the integrity of the system.

This govenment like all others before it has no interest in really making the system secure because they want to be able to manipulate it as they want like all others before them. Until we hand the integrity of the system to an independent group whose sole aim is to make the system work as it is meant too we will never have a benefit system as free as it can be from fraud and misuse. Right now this government is cost cutting usually hitting the genuine more then the frauds and pretending it is reform and forrtunately for them most of the public are buying it.

[Jimi]

Sadly,the program makers of Benefit Street on Channel 4 chose to pick on folk who were conned intae making the program,the good news is that they will now record a future program on tax evasion,including government ministers.......wow,I just looked out of my window and saw a pig fly over our house.

http://omg.wthax.org/4Hmzfu.jpg

[ADMIN EDIT: image changed to link to prevent page disruption]

If I were interested in law breakers, I'd be focusing on tax evaders. Convenielntly, that graphic doesnt separate out 'avoid' (legal) from 'evade' (illegal).

I wonder who made it, and what their agenda is?

[Jimi]

I wonder who caused the banking crisis,in fact I know who caused it.

http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/20...rited-mess-52/

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I'd better add this link produced by a Tory.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rame...b_2007552.html