General : Coming soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 6.

[Media Boy UK]

The following things will happen on the following dates on this thread:

-16th. Final list updates of my list will be posted.
-16th. Media Boy to reveal 'Best of' 2013 winners only on Cable Forum.
-17th. Media Boy to reveal the posters of all the 'Coming Soon to Virgin TV' thread today only on Cable Forum (Poll closes at midday on December 16th)

-Jan 6th. Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 1 will launch.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You can all believe what you want, but if you prefer to listen to Sky Customer Services employees and vague 'insider' information which is probably not worth a dot, then knock yourself out! Whilst the media can be a little OTT at times and sometimes make too much of very little, I would rather go on information from media reports than from these other 'sources' which just seem to be leading everyone up the garden path.

Good point.

It would be no exaggeration to suggest over the past 3 years there has been maybe 10 separate supposed launch dates for SKY Atlantic, on Virgin Media, posted here on Cable Forum from reputable sources including insiders and press speculation. Through out SKY have time and time again denied such rumors or stuck to their guns in terms of the channel being exclusive to their platform.

3 years after the channel launched it's still not on Virgin Media. That should tell everyone what they need to know about these supposed launch dates or positive negotiations. It should also show which source of information has been consistent and accurate through out, that's been SKY. There is simply no way this can be denied.

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by Chad

There's been a few things we thought we knew about what customer service agents had been told at SKY, which have turned out to be nothing more than rubbish:

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Prog...1198530#M20628

Agreed.

I don't think it's coming either, all I'm saying is that I know as much about the situation as your customer service rep, which is to say I don't know anything about it, and neither does she. It would have been interesting to see what she'd said had you attempted to drill her down on the details, ie. her source, was this the official company line or her own thoughts, etc.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Chad

Good point.

It would be no exaggeration to suggest over the past 3 years there has been maybe 10 separate supposed launch dates for SKY Atlantic, on Virgin Media, posted here on Cable Forum from reputable sources including insiders and press speculation. Through out SKY have time and time again denied such rumors or stuck to their guns in terms of the channel being exclusive to their platform.

3 years after the channel launched it's still not on Virgin Media. That should tell everyone what they need to know about these supposed launch dates or positive negotiations. It should also show which source of information has been consistent and accurate through out, that's been SKY. There is simply no way this can be denied.

absolutely correct chad mate like I been saying all along sky will not change there stance on withheld channels they not coming

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

exactly it speculation only it not coming sooner people realise that the better

No, Dave, it's based on media reports. This constant denial from you seems to indicate that you are positively willing the channel not to appear!

I know that you believe that Sky would lose viewers by permitting Sky Atlantic to be shown on Virgin, and maybe they would. However, they would simply address that by putting forward other tantalising offers and promotions. You are wrong if you believe that most people stick with Sky just because of Atlantic.

Just look at the other posts on here. So many people are digital TV tarts who just go chasing price offers. Clearly, the strategy works.

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Originally Posted by Chad

3 years after the channel launched it's still not on Virgin Media. That should tell everyone what they need to know about these supposed launch dates or positive negotiations. It should also show which source of information has been consistent and accurate through out, that's been SKY. There is simply no way this can be denied.

That assumes that nothing ever changes, Chad. History shows that is not the case.

Sky will continue to deny everything until the channel launches. Just like Virgin do. Nothing strange about that.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, Dave, it's based on media reports. This constant denial from you seems to indicate that you are positively willing the channel not to appear!

I know that you believe that Sky would lose viewers by permitting Sky Atlantic to be shown on Virgin, and maybe they would. However, they would simply address that by putting forward other tantalising offers and promotions. You are wrong if you believe that most people stick with Sky just because of Atlantic.

Just look at the other posts on here. So many people are digital TV tarts who just go chasing price offers. Clearly, the strategy works.

totally wrong ask MM ect I have called sky lots on here for withholding the channels and been wanting the channels for very long time but know they not coming did not say just SA they lose customers said all the withheld channels they lose customers as VM ect much better value

sky still say must people join sky because of SA even though the viewing figures prove that to be totally wrong as over 90% of sky customers don't watch it

ps sky are kings of withholding channels and will continue to be

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Dave42

absolutely correct chad mate like I been saying all along sky will not change there stance on withheld channels they not coming

Says he the man who consistently said like many others who were in denial that we would not get BT Sports and what about Netflix when that was rumoured to be coming to Virgin Media and lol and behold the same pessimistic doomsayers were out in force again.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

totally wrong ask MM ect I have called sky lots on here for withholding the channels and been wanting the channels for very long time but know they not coming did not say just SA they lose customers said all the withheld channels they lose customers as VM ect much better value

sky still say must people join sky because of SA even though the viewing figures prove that to be totally wrong as over 90% of sky customers don't watch it

...And there lies the contradiction.

If media reports say that Sky and Virgin are in positive discussions and that a deal is imminent (as they were saying last September), what is it that you know to contradict this? I respect that it is your opinion, but you don't actually know.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Says he the man who consistently said like many others that we would not get BT Sports and what about Netflix when that was rumoured to be coming to Virgin Media and lol and behold the same pessimistic doomsayers were out in force again.

It seems they never learn, Den, even when they are shown to be wrong, their negative outlook prevails.

[Media Boy UK]

December 2013 update - December 2nd updates.

Keep up-to-date on what broadcasters own and do not own.

NOTE: The post will be updated every time Virgin Media signs no deal with broadcasters or when an new channels is set to launch from that broadcaster.

=== What is Media Boy on about??? ===

Here is what I mean when I post the following on Cable Forum:

Virgin Insiders - means just that.
'Do Not Post' order - means an Virgin insider has given me some info on things that set to happen but has told me not to reveal it right now.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
List last updated on December 2nd 2013.

Welcome to the all new look of this part of the list.

When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV.
Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster:
Also Radio channels are broadcasting on Digital Radio via Freesat, Freeview, Freesat from Sky, Sky or UPC Ireland.

NOTE: Shopping Channels NOW ADDED to this list and only Broadcasts who has got some Channels broadcasting on Virgin Media right now appeared on this list. To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on UPC Ireland, Sky, Freesat or Freeview.

=== TV and Radio Channels: ===
=== Own by A+E Networks UK (A+E Networks/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-CI HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-CI +1
-HISTORY HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-Lifetime +1
-Lifetime HD

=== Own by Active Channel Limited ===
-The Active Channel

=== Own by ARY Group ===
-ARY Qtv
-ARY Oneworld

=== Own by The BBC ===
-BBC Four HD (Channel soon to launch).
-BBC News HD (Channel soon to launch).
-BBC Three HD (Channel soon to launch).
-CBBC HD (Channel soon to launch).
-CBeebies HD (Channel soon to launch).

=== Own by British Sky Broadcasting ===
-Pick +1
-Sky1 +1
-Sky 3D
-Sky Atlantic
-Sky Atlantic +1
-Sky Atlantic HD
-Sky Bravo (Channel rumour to launch when Sky signed new broadcasting deal with Virgin Media - May replace Sky Arts 2).
-Sky News HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-SkyPoker.com
-Sky Sports F1 HD
-Sky Sports 3 HD
-Sky Sports 4 HD
-Sky Sports News HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by British Sky Broadcasting/Abu Dhabi Media Investment Corporation ===
-Sky News Arabia

=== Own by CBS Studios International/Chellomedia (Liberty Global) ===
-Reality TV

=== Own by Channel Four Television Corporation ===
-4Seven HD (Channel soon to start broadcasting.)

=== Own by CSC Media Group ===
-Bliss
-BuzMuzik
-Chart Show TV
-Chart Show TV Dance
-Flava
-Kix
-Kix Power
-POP
-Pop Girl
-Scuzz
-The Vault
-Tiny Pop +1

=== Own by Discovery Networks Western Europe ===
-TLC +2

=== Own by Disney-ABC Television Group ===
-Disney Channel HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-Disney Junior +
-Disney Junior HD
-Disney XD HD

=== Own by Eternal Word Television Network ===
-EWTN TV (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-EWTN Radio Europe

=== Own by Fox International Channels (21st Century Fox) ===
-Fox News Channel

=== Own by Global Music Television (Global Radio) ===
-Capital FM TV
-Heart FM TV

=== Own by Ideal Shopping Direct plc ===
-Create & Craft Extra
-Ideal Extra

=== Own by ITV Digital Channels Ltd (ITV plc) and JML Direct Ltd ===
-The Store

=== Own by MGM Channel (UK) Ltd (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-MGM HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Michel Adam Lisowski ===
-Fashion TV (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Moving Movies Ltd. (CSC Media Group) ===
-True Drama
-True Movies 2

=== Own by NGC-UK Partnership (National Geographic Society/Fox International Channels [21st Century Fox]) ===
-Nat Wild HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Nickelodeon UK (Viacom International Media Networks Europe/BSkyB) ===
-Nick Jr. +1

=== Own by Northern & Shell ===
-5Later (Soon to launch on Freeview).

=== Own by Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Comedy Central Extra +1

=== Own by Phoenix Television ===
-Phoenix CNE

=== Own by QVC (Liberty Interactive Corporation - Liberty Media) ===
-QVC Beauty
-QVC Extra
-QVC Style

=== Own by Raidió Teilifís Éireann ===
-RTÉ 2fm (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-RTÉ Ireland (Channel soon to launch for viewers in England, Scotland and Wales).
-RTÉ lyric fm (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Real & Smooth Ltd (Global Radio) ===
-Real Radio Wales

=== Own by Scripps Networks Interactive ===
-Food Network +1

=== Own by Sony Pictures Television ===
-More>Movies
-More>Movies +1
-Movies 4 Men
-Movies 4 Men +1
-Sony Entertainment Television +1
-Sony Movie Channel
-Sony Movie Channel +1

=== Own by STAR TV (21st Century Fox) ===
-STAR Jalsha
-STAR Plus HD

=== Own by TIML Radio Limited ===
-Absolute 90s

=== Own by Travel Channel International Ltd. (Scripps Networks Interactive) ===
-Travel Channel + 1

=== Own by Turner Broadcasting System (Time Warner) ===
-Test line

=== Own by United Christian Broadcasters ===
-UCB TV
-UCB Bible
-UCB Gospel
-UCB Inspiration
-UCB Ireland (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Universal Networks International ===
-E! HD
-E! +1 (Now testing on $ky).
-Universal Channel HD

=== Own by Viacom ===
-BET: Black Ent Tv +1

=== Own by Viacom International Media Networks (Europe) ===
-MTV CLASSIC (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-MTV LIVE
-MTV +1

=== Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises ===
-ZEE News

NOTE TO ALL: Virgin Media and UPC Ireland are now both own by Liberty Global.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Liberty Global - http://www.lgi.com/
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
See Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated November 4th 2013.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: I get all my info from Virgin Media viewers, some Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Insiders) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN UPC IRELAND AREAS' WHEN THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA?
A: Virgin Media and UPC Ireland are now both own by Liberty Global.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''HISTORY HD'' OR ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR?
A: HISTORY HD and Disney Channel HD is only broadcasting in UPC Ireland areas right now.

==== See you later ===
List last updated on December 2nd 2013.

Next update: TBC.

Did I miss anything??? If I did tell me and it will appear on the next update.

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[Chad]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That assumes that nothing ever changes, Chad. History shows that is not the case.

Sky will continue to deny everything until the channel launches. Just like Virgin do. Nothing strange about that.

I agree however at this point I've yet to see anything that suggests the channel is actually coming.

The strange thing is people on here seem to fall for the same speculation over and over again. Making excuses and bending the truth to try and accommodate their own belief that the channel is coming even thought common sense should tell them not to.

I agree there has been a few articles in the press that would suggest SKY and Virgin are in talks for the channel, and have a better chance than ever in terms of agreeing a deal, however some of those articles are pushing 6 months old now.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

'Do Not Post' order - means an Virgin insider has given me some info on things that set to happen but has told me not to reveal it right now.

MB, it's a bit pointless to say that. Could you not tell us whether you are talking about new channels, new apps, etc because otherwise we have no idea what to expect.

If you could say something like 'I have been given a 'Do Not Post' order in respect of new channels to launch soon', you would not be giving anything away but at least we would know whether we could look forward to it!

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

...And there lies the contradiction.

If media reports say that Sky and Virgin are in positive discussions and that a deal is imminent (as they were saying last September), what is it that you know to contradict this? I respect that it is your opinion, but you don't actually know.

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It seems they never learn, Den, even when they are shown to be wrong, their negative outlook prevails.

well OB only ones that really know how talks are going is VM and sky management every thing else is pure speculation even you got to agree with that mate I say again I do really want to be proved wrong on this as want the channels much a anyone

I only negative about getting the sky channels know what sky is like for withholding them

[blue666666]

Media boy have you heard anything about sky news channels being in HD. May be launching when BBC HD channels do ?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Chad

I agree however at this point I've yet to see anything that suggests the channel is actually coming.

The strange thing is people on here seem to fall for the same speculation over and over again. Making excuses and bending the truth to try and accommodate their own belief that the channel is coming even thought common sense should tell them not to.

I agree there has been a few articles in the press that would suggest SKY and Virgin are in talks for the channel, and have a better chance than ever in terms of agreeing a deal, however some of those articles are pushing 6 months old now.

Well, on three months we would agree. The thing is, the media is much more credible than these 'insiders' - I don't even know if some of these actually exist or it's a figment of their imagination.

If people think that we cannot have a reasonable conversation on issues that have been the subject of media reports, then what on earth is this thread about?

As I said above, the likely cause of the delay in a launch is the Sky Bravo channel being tagged on to the end of those negotiations. These things take time and I wouldn't be surprised if this hasn't delayed the launch until early in the New Year.

People will complain that 'it was supposed to be autumn, so it can't be true' if these channels do not launch before Christmas, but the BT and Fox fiascos surely prove that channel launches often get delayed. This does not mean that the original information was incorrect though.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by blue666666

Media boy have you heard anything about sky news channels being in HD. May be launching when BBC HD channels do ?

No news on Sky News HD and Sky Sports News HD launching.