Britain on the fiddle, BBC1 last night.

[Nidge41]

Did anyone watch it?

[Gary L]

No, I didn't watch it.

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Gary L

No, I didn't watch it.

All foreigners scamming the system, one Nigerian had a million quid home in Nigeria after rinsing the system for years.

[Qtx]

Didn't watch it, figured it was another program like saints and sinners, designed to slowly brainwash people in to thinking all benefit claimants are **** of the earth.

Originally Posted by Qtx

Didn't watch it, figured it was another program like saints and sinners, designed to slowly brainwash people in to thinking all benefit claimants are **** of the earth.

yeah plenty already under that influence here do not need any more

[denphone]

I do hope that The BBC will give the same equivilent air time to those subjected to ATOS and DWP investigation where they they subjected to verbal examinations to determine their disability.

Under the ridiculous points system, benefits are withdrawn from rightful recipients, only to have them reinstated by the independent Tribunal some months later. By that time the regulations regarding benefits have removed the possibility of claiming benefits for 6 months.

I appreciate that there are any number of fraudulent recipients of benefits as there are in any walk of life and the book should be thrown at them but there are many on work based benefits and Disabled benefits who are increasingly being demonised as scroungers by large parts of the media and a considerable amount of the public when they are nothing of the sort.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by denphone

I do hope that The BBC will give the same equivilent air time to those subjected to ATOS and DWP investigation where they they subjected to verbal examinations to determine their disability.

Under the ridiculous points system, benefits are withdrawn from rightful recipients, only to have them reinstated by the independent Tribunal some months later. By that time the regulations regarding benefits have removed the possibility of claiming benefits for 6 months.

I appreciate that there are any number of fraudulent recipients of benefits as there are in any walk of life and the book should be thrown at them but there are many on work based benefits and Disabled benefits who are increasingly being demonised as scroungers by large parts of the media and a considerable amount of the public when they are nothing of the sort.

Personally I'd prefer to see the companies avoiding tax and the powerful people that do the same and the corruption at local government highlighted alongside the dole fiddlers on prime time TV.

I don't understand how we have become so unbalanced in this country one type of wrongdoing and the proverbial book must be thrown but another few types and we shrug and carry on. No type of fraud is ok and should be punished to the max but there seems to be a massive difference if your at the lower end of the social scale then the top and we call ourselves a developed nation bit of a joke really. I suppose this is what happens when politics becomes so corrupt and professional but doesn't make it right and it would be nice to see all those doing wrong demonised not just a convinient section as it is now.

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I don't understand how we have become so unbalanced in this country one type of wrongdoing and the proverbial book must be thrown but another few types and we shrug and carry on. No type of fraud is ok and should be punished to the max but there seems to be a massive difference if your at the lower end of the social scale then the top and we call ourselves a developed nation bit of a joke really. I suppose this is what happens when politics becomes so corrupt and professional but doesn't make it right and it would be nice to see all those doing wrong demonised not just a convinient section as it is now.

The biggest fiddlers in this country are the MP's, £150 for a lamp, £600 for curtains, IDS gets £1million a year for his farm, then there's the £10,000 a year the MP's get for their Children.

[richard s]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

The biggest fiddlers in this country are the MP's, £150 for a lamp, £600 for curtains, IDS gets £1million a year for his farm, then there's the £10,000 a year the MP's get for their Children.

I read somewhere that they also get an Heating Allowance. Does anyone know something different to this.

Perhaps we should all get jobs that mainly achieve turning various groups of society against each other it seems to be financially rewarding even though it's morally bankrupt.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by denphone

I do hope that The BBC will give the same equivilent air time to those subjected to ATOS and DWP investigation where they they subjected to verbal examinations to determine their disability.

They already did on R4 last week iirc.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

They already did on R4 last week iirc.

radio 4 vs prime time tv hmmmmm

The unemployed and the sick are a convenient patsy . In 10 to 20 years the state pension will cost the tax payer 100/120 billion doubling what it costs now. With inflation and rates staying the same the ESA and JSA will cost 6 billion each

Is the state pension sustainable ? I know those who have paid NI want it to be and say why should we lose out but be honest with yourselves is it?

As for Britain on the fiddle the biggest crooks in the country are those in power

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by richard s

I read somewhere that they also get an Heating Allowance. Does anyone know something different to this.

Forgot to add that, yes they also get a heating allowance for their homes, no wonder they won't lobby the big energy companies to lower their prices.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

radio 4 vs prime time tv hmmmmm

The unemployed and the sick are a convenient patsy .

SOME unemployed and SOME of the sick

Is the state pension sustainable ? I know those who have paid NI want it to be and say why should we lose out but be honest with yourselves is it?

Blimey ,you really got it in for pensioners haven't you .

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Originally Posted by Nidge41

Forgot to add that, yes they also get a heating allowance for their homes, no wonder they won't lobby the big energy companies to lower their prices.

No they don't ,far too much generalisation .SOME of the out of town living expenses include heating but things are a lot stricter since the expenses are handled by IPSA .MP's are getting a lot less in expenses hence the need for a pay rise