30M Virgin 2 way splitter - Page 7

qasdfdsaq · 02-10-2013, 23:46

Virgin Media doesn't like being called out by anyone. IIRC he's worked for them in the past though.

Chrysalis · 03-10-2013, 06:51

surely if this was allowed the capacity planning is made a joke off.

the sort of people who would want to bond 2 connections are probably heavy users, so instead of 1 guy able to fill 60% of a VM US channel he can now fill all of it or rather about 60% of 2 bonded upstreams, doesnt sound good.

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Yeah, there's a whole bunch of potential issues that might come from it. Some sites hate you changing IP address a lot as well (Which is how it'll look to them). For stuff like newsgroups or torrents though, you'd be flying.

thats the big issue to be wary off, some sites will auto log you out whenever ip changes, some sites may even ban you, if you downloading of a download service and use a download manager to utilise both isp's together on a multi threaded download they may detect you as account sharing and ban you.

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by the way a fancy router isnt even needed for this.

one can have 2 routers (gateways) connected to the lan at once.

then on a windows pc both gateways can be added simultaneously, then you can mess with metrics, individual routing to different endpoints etc. This is what I did when I had adsl and cable activated together, I also briefly did it when I had infinity and cable together.

Seph may remember I have brought this up before.

Sephiroth · 03-10-2013, 10:38

I do indeed.

adduxi · 03-10-2013, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

by the way a fancy router isnt even needed for this. One can have 2 routers (gateways) connected to the lan at once.
Then on a windows pc both gateways can be added simultaneously, then you can mess with metrics, individual routing to different endpoints etc. This is what I did when I had adsl and cable activated together, I also briefly did it when I had infinity and cable together.
Seph may remember I have brought this up before.

Chrysalis, yes agreed and I had this setup on my main W7 PC prior to buying the TP-Link. However not all kit allows for 2 gateways etc. so I opted to get the router.
It's all seamless now for any kit in the house

Chrysalis · 03-10-2013, 22:42

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Originally Posted by adduxi

Chrysalis, yes agreed and I had this setup on my main W7 PC prior to buying the TP-Link. However not all kit allows for 2 gateways etc. so I opted to get the router.
It's all seamless now for any kit in the house

yeah if you want control on your entire network instead of just on one device a router is better of course, especially if the devices cannot do it themselves, but for people with just 1 windows device for the bonding then they can save some cash.

I am glad you have also done what I did tho so someone else here now to backup its possible.

03-10-2013, 22:51

Well when my line goes in I will be calling on one of you strapping chaps to guide me

adduxi · 29-10-2013, 22:36

Just for the interested, here's a couple of TBB tests showing quirks of a Dual WAN setup.
I thought some of you might be interested ......

qasdfdsaq · 29-10-2013, 23:03

Should emphasise unbonded dual-WAN setup

General Maximus · 29-10-2013, 23:06

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Should emphasise unbonded dual-WAN setup

thanks for the reminder because I looked at it and was very unimpressed. It looks like a nice 120/20 connection. What are the speeds of the two seperate connections adduxi?

adduxi · 30-10-2013, 17:22

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Should emphasise unbonded dual-WAN setup

Yes, of course unbonded. I don't have the knowledge to delve into Linux Dual Wan routing

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

thanks for the reminder because I looked at it and was very unimpressed. It looks like a nice 120/20 connection. What are the speeds of the two seperate connections adduxi?

VM is 120/12 and BT is 'about' 67/18.
Our household is pleased at any rate, and when you have kids, that's a big plus, believe me !!

General Maximus · 30-10-2013, 18:36

so those supposed to be two different speed tests for the same connection at different times of the day or two separate speed tests, one for each connection?

I am only asking because I wasn't sure if a multi-threaded speed tests would in essence split the connections it is making between the two wan connections so you would more or less get a picture of the combined speed.

Sephiroth · 30-10-2013, 18:46

Adduxi has two WAN IP addresses and hence two TBB tests. (Dual WAN router).

General Maximus · 30-10-2013, 19:31

i feel like a right dick now, it even specifies the two different isps

qasdfdsaq · 30-10-2013, 23:17

Seems like two different tests for the same connection - i.e. behind the dual-WAN router.

Notice how the result saying BT is giving a speed only possible on VM and the result saying VM is giving a speed only possible on BT. Such are the peculiarities of dual-WAN balancing when done at high level

General Maximus · 31-10-2013, 06:23

well spotted, at least you can see it makes some difference.