Will NTL ever catch up with Sky? - Page 6

themelon · 07-12-2004, 18:38

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Originally Posted by ianathuth

If everything about NTL was as good as you make it out to be and Sky so bad then nobody would ever move from NTL to Sky. Why do you think that NTL customers move?

If everything on ntl was so bad they wouldnt have any customers.

And how come customers move from Sky to ntl and find it much better....like myself

And a number of other people I know.

ian@huth · 07-12-2004, 18:56

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Originally Posted by themelon

If everything on ntl was so bad they wouldnt have any customers.

And how come customers move from Sky to ntl and find it much better....like myself

And a number of other people I know.

I am not saying that everything about NTL is bad. I have NTL telephone and NTL broadband which means that NTL are providing me with a satisfactory level of service in those two areas at a reasonable price. I have Sky DTV because they are giving me a level of service that NTL could not give and on top of that give me features that NTL cannot provide. I would readily switch back to NTL DTV if it gets to the point where it can give me everything that Sky does and something extra on top to persuade me to change. I can't see the point in changing supplier if the new supplier cannot offer any enhancement to what I am happy with. Have you a good word to say about Sky or BT?

themelon · 07-12-2004, 22:14

Not really becuase every dealing I have ever had with both te said companies be it for private or business purposes, has been an absolute nightmare.

I can accept that some people will get a perfect great service from the said companies....but they wernt for me.

I dont think either Sky, BT or ntl are fantastic in terms of what we 'should' be getting, both have their faults.

But for me ntl offer a more staifactory service..the reason I changed after 10+ years of misery.

The problem is when a problem arises people on this forum try and paint the BT and Sky world as a bed of roses, where the sun shines from between their arse cheeks..I like to remind people that neither service is perfect, all have their flaws.

ikthius · 07-12-2004, 23:01

I have noticed that this thread is starting to be a battle of who is better, sky or ntl, when this was not really the issue.

All this thread was about was a fair deal, fro ntl customers from either NTL/SKY, no matter who is at fault,

I am not that bothered about bandwidth, all I want is my tv to work, which I am happy with, and to have the same option as any sky customer who has sky sports, and watch the extra matches, especially if the game I want to watch is in the extra games.

ik

andygrif · 08-12-2004, 00:32

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Originally Posted by themelon

If everything on ntl was so bad they wouldnt have any customers.

It's not that everything is so bad...we're talking about one issue here. Personally my experience of intactive is very poor, but I have resigned myself to the fact that it doesn't work and so I don't use it. Me jumping up and down won't make any difference (believe me I've tried).

I've come dangerously close to dumping ntl all together, but the hassle involved (my BT phone line is a stupid place) in relocating everything, changing BB providers and trying to find a suitable place to stick a dish on a listed building simply isn't worth it to me. I don't really have any major quibbles with the channels ntl have on offer, the telephone or the BB - so it's not worth it.

I just find it very frustrating that a service I'm paying for doesn't work as it was/is advertised.

Tod · 08-12-2004, 11:09

The issue is "Will NTL ever catch up with Sky?"
I want to know whether I can expect to get the scale of interactive you get on sky....ever?

As crashing of the boxes has come up, my NTL Box crashes everytime I first press red for interactive. I then have to switch off the NTL box and re-boot it - it generally works after that for the period of time I view the red button interactive. However next time I access red button - it's switch off and on time again!

Should I ask for a new box - I have a pace box and people seem to be saying that they are no good?
Will this also speed up the guide?

themelon · 08-12-2004, 15:14

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Originally Posted by Tod

The issue is "Will NTL ever catch up with Sky?"
I want to know whether I can expect to get the scale of interactive you get on sky....ever?

No........probably never

Sky have signed exclusive deals with ITV, CH4 UKTV and various other providers.

The BBC Can work well.

I would suggest fitting a timer switch to your box to reboot at 4am or something, this should speed things up and resolve the problems with Interactive which seem to be memory issues.

It seems the Samsung is better, but there is no garuntee you will get this unless you subscribe to 1.5Mb through a Set Top Box

andygrif · 08-12-2004, 15:32

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Originally Posted by themelon

Sky have signed exclusive deals with ITV, CH4 UKTV and various other providers.

Not sure where you're getting this information from.

ITV not that long ago was at lggerheads with Sky itself, and the ITVi application is available on Freeview.

C4's interactive is also on Freeview.

UKTV is half owned by the BBC, so I would be surprised if this were true.

themelon · 08-12-2004, 16:07

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Originally Posted by andygrif

Not sure where you're getting this information from.

ITV not that long ago was at lggerheads with Sky itself, and the ITVi application is available on Freeview.

C4's interactive is also on Freeview.

UKTV is half owned by the BBC, so I would be surprised if this were true.

I have came across this information whilst working for a company which devlops software for Digital TV, for companies across the world.

ITVi on Freeview? Is it?

It certainally doesnt do anything on my freeview box on ITV when you press red. And I wasnt aware of anything unless its recent.

C4 Links to fourtext which is a complete waste of time and effort, it does the same as Teletext but is very slow and useless.

UKTV Doesnt do anything.

paul_hadley · 08-12-2004, 16:14

ITVi is not available on Freeview. It used to be available on ITV Digital years ago I believe.

Stuart · 08-12-2004, 17:19

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Originally Posted by andygrif

Not sure where you're getting this information from.

ITV not that long ago was at lggerheads with Sky itself, and the ITVi application is available on Freeview.

No, ITVi is Sky only.

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C4's interactive is also on Freeview.

I am fairly certain Channel 4 have a limited Interactive service on NTL as well (a couple of games and not an awful lot else)

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UKTV is half owned by the BBC, so I would be surprised if this were true.

Isn't the other half Flextech, who have something to do with Telewest? If that's the case, I would be surprised if they had an exclusive deal with Sky, as it would be less profitable for them to do so..

Edit: Just checked on Flextech.co.uk. Flextech IS the content division of Telewest Broadband, and they do own half of UKTV (the other half is owned by BBC worldwide).

andygrif · 08-12-2004, 18:54

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Originally Posted by themelon

I have came across this information whilst working for a company which devlops software for Digital TV, for companies across the world.

ITVi on Freeview? Is it?

It certainally doesnt do anything on my freeview box on ITV when you press red. And I wasnt aware of anything unless its recent.

Could be something recent, or perhaps for certain programmes or adverts only, I'm, not 100%.

ikthius · 09-12-2004, 23:18

Everyone,

here is a petition for NTL customers to get interactive 8 games from sky sports.
http://www.petitiononline.com/of2c2004/petition.html

if you would like to see this, then please sign up.

ik

Neil · 09-12-2004, 23:24

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Originally Posted by ikthius

Everyone,

here is a petition for NTL customers to get interactive 8 games from sky sports.
http://www.petitiononline.com/of2c2004/petition.html

if you would like to see this, then please sign up.

ik

LMAO-There's an advert for Sky at the bottom of the page!!

ikthius · 09-12-2004, 23:29

Yes,

I did notice it and thought it a bit ironic.

ik