General : STM always enforced?

[Chrysalis]

tomato firmware is the best usage monitoring I have seen.

on the shibby build (and I think is same on other variants) you can see live traffic graph of the connection, but that isnt that amazing however what is you can then view a live graph per device on your network, you can also view per interface on the router. On top of that it tallies up internet usage, overall, per device. It can store this data persistently so isnt lost across reboots, power cuts etc. Break down per day or per month. The asuswrt-merlin firmware imported this feature as well although its not quite as good but still much better than average on merlin. To me isp supplied firmware's are miles behind whats possible on a router.

[kwikbreaks]

Yes Tomato firmware was a favourite of mine. I also found the QoS both easy to use and effective. Unfortunately my current router isn't supported and the usage tracking on it is pretty poor

Well did a 7GB download and been STM'd now for over 3 hours, done nothing since.

So the 2 hour thing seems to be as and when it feels like it - dont forget the other night I did 20GB and it lasted 2 hours even past 11.

Ive done 352mb since I posted that and I am STILL in STM.

What is it at weekends? 12 hours!?

Finally come off (21:10), some have nothing but mine seem to be getting longer and loooooooooonger!

[kwikbreaks]

Are you sure that it isn't congestion? Are you hitting your STM speed spot on?

yes its the STM speed. about 68mbps through the speedtests 70.2 on the meter I have

[MUD_Wizard]

Originally Posted by everyday

yes its the STM speed. about 68mbps through the speedtests 70.2 on the meter I have

To be sure run Shaperprobe next time and post the results:
http://www.measurementlab.net/tools/shaperprobe

[Sephiroth]

68 meg isn't bad. Faster than 96% of the country or something.

[MUD_Wizard]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

68 meg isn't bad. Faster than 96% of the country or something.

It's more than double the UK government's definition of Super-fast broadband! So Super-Super-fast broadband.

But I have no gripe with the speed, you guys always seem to jump on that bandwagon without need. What I am saying is is the STM really that long on a weekend for what I downloaded?

And thanks. I will run it and post the results if I get STM for longer than 2 hours when I do 7GB

[Kushan]

Even if 68meg is good, that length of STM is far too long.

Originally Posted by Kushan

Even if 68meg is good, that length of STM is far too long.

Thank you , someone who sees what I am trying to get at.

Well Just wanted to update you. I believe it IS STM based on the download speeds at both stages (smack on the website page anyway) but that program you told me to try say nothing, nada, and then I thought isn;t shaping and throttling different? SO would this pick up throttling?

Anyhoo..

What I call Stage 1 STM



Connected to server 217.163.1.87.

Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 11826 Kbps.
Downstream: 98085 Kbps.

The measurement will take upto 2.5 minutes. Please wait.

Checking for traffic shapers:

Upstream: No shaper detected.
Median received rate: 11573 Kbps.

Downstream: No shaper detected.
Median received rate: 79893 Kbps.

And stage 2.



Connected to server 83.212.4.11.

Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 11651 Kbps.
Downstream: 82587 Kbps.

The measurement will take upto 2.5 minutes. Please wait.

Checking for traffic shapers:

Upstream: No shaper detected.
Median received rate: 11424 Kbps.

Downstream: No shaper detected.
Median received rate: 67722 Kbps.

I'll leave what the hell this all means to you boys But the full stage 2 kicked in same minute as that speed test. So I will see how long it lasts for this time.

[Sephiroth]

Everyday has done a meticulous piece of confirmation of the practical effect of the STM policy. ShaperProbe reported nothing. That doesn't surprise me having read the learned paper on how ShapeProbe works and the extent of the field studies performed.

The studies were performed in the USA and AFAIK (and I've done searches), none of the ISPs concerned use the same system that is deployed at VM; ALLOT Communications traffic shaper.

The ALLOT system works by de-prioritising user packets whose rate exceeds a threshold (the STM limits). This occurs if the server's buffers are full and the packet is delayed until there higher priority packets have been cleared. I don't think the strategy has changed only the application policy.

I'm not the expert here so others might add better value. But unless ShaperProbe can capture this method, it will return a negative report.

It's just come off - and I hope I helped in some small way!

After reading http://www.allot.com/ let's hope they keep their STM on 4G to the USA only!