This is 2013 - NOT a third world country

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://news.sky.com/story/1153336/re...up-uk-families

What is the Red Cross all about feeding the poor in third world countries, NOW we find that they will be feeding families in the UNITED KINGDOM.

The below poverty line in the UK are to be given food by the Red Cross.

What the hell is this government allowing this to happen, we must have plenty of food going about, BUT families are depending on food banks and NOW the Red Cross. As they cannot live.

Cameron and Clegg should be totally ashamed of themself. They are pouring billions of pounds in overseas aid, wasting money on the HS2 and yet allowing there own people depend on charities to survive.

[SMG]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://news.sky.com/story/1153336/re...up-uk-families

What is the Red Cross all about feeding the poor in third world countries, NOW we find that they will be feeding families in the UNITED KINGDOM.

The below poverty line in the UK are to be given food by the Red Cross.

What the hell is this government allowing this to happen, we must have plenty of food going about, BUT families are depending on food banks and NOW the Red Cross. As they cannot live.

Cameron and Clegg should be totally ashamed of themself. They are pouring billions of pounds in overseas aid, wasting money on the HS2 and yet allowing there own people depend on charities to survive.

Cant argue with that Arthur.

[alferret]

Arthur, take a pill mate. We all know just how much you hate the Tories. Remember this tho, labor dropped the UK from a great height into the pile of dog do do that the Tories are slowly digging us out of, while it's a sad fact that people in this country are having to rely on food banks, red cross etc more and more it didn't start with the current government and until you realise that you'll keep venting, raising that blood pressure of yours until your veins pop.

[MalteseFalcon]

Let him. Might get some peace around here then.

[Osem]

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Since the Tories came into power, they have brought terrible hardship on various parts of this country.

I don't give a damn of people say about me having a dig at the Tories - this is NOT a third world country, where those countries depend on the Red Cross for food.

During the war our troops depended on this supply. Cameron and Clegg boast that they will continue to send billions of pounds to countries that dont need this AID

Yet, the people in this country cannot afford food to live and depend on food banks and now commit shoplifting to feed there familes.

This should not happen here, its NOT Labour fault, its the coalition that has brought in the Bedroom Tax, Even l have to downsize and l have a job. I cannot pay bills myself and have to ecomise to save money.

It should NOT happen in this country for the Red Cross to feed the poor. The next thing we will have is the Sally Army on street coorners with food trolleys.

When l was a young kid, l depended on jumble sales and free food given out by shops and going down the market on a Saturday night picking up scraps of food and meat to survive.

This is 2013, when food is plentiful, and yet we have families depending on charites - IT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

[nomadking]

The Red Cross are NOT supplying the food. All they are planning to do is set up some collection points for foodbanks, which were started in this country about 10 years ago ie under LABOUR.

[Gary L]

I'm sure when people start dying, and people start fighting.

David will do something.

We could always apply to America for humanitarian aid.

When David ignores it all.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The Red Cross are NOT supplying the food. All they are planning to do is set up some collection points for foodbanks, which were started in this country about 10 years ago ie under LABOUR.

Thank God Labour set something up for the suffering that Dave is causing.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Since the Tories came into power, they have brought terrible hardship on various parts of this country.

I don't give a damn of people say about me having a dig at the Tories - this is NOT a third world country, where those countries depend on the Red Cross for food.

During the war our troops depended on this supply. Cameron and Clegg boast that they will continue to send billions of pounds to countries that dont need this AID

Yet, the people in this country cannot afford food to live and depend on food banks and now commit shoplifting to feed there familes.

This should not happen here, its NOT Labour fault, its the coalition that has brought in the Bedroom Tax, Even l have to downsize and l have a job. I cannot pay bills myself and have to ecomise to save money.

It should NOT happen in this country for the Red Cross to feed the poor. The next thing we will have is the Sally Army on street coorners with food trolleys.

When l was a young kid, l depended on jumble sales and free food given out by shops and going down the market on a Saturday night picking up scraps of food and meat to survive.

This is 2013, when food is plentiful, and yet we have families depending on charites - IT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

if they gave up the fags and booze they would have more money for food

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I'm sure when people start dying, and people start fighting.

David will do something.

We could always apply to America for humanitarian aid.

When David ignores it all.

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Thank God Labour set something up for the suffering that Dave is causing.

Labour didn't set them up. Labour restricted access to them by only allowing certain organisations/people to refer people to them. This government opened up access by allowing jobcentres to make referrals. If Labour had done that, then the demand would be around current levels long before 2010. Too many people can't resist a freebie.

The recession caused a surge in binge drinking among the unemployed, new research shows.
Britons typically drank less due to the economic downturn as wage packets shrank.
But, according to a study published in the European Journal of Public Health, those without work were more likely to turn to alcohol.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The recession caused a surge in binge drinking among the unemployed, new research shows.
Britons typically drank less due to the economic downturn as wage packets shrank.
But, according to a study published in the European Journal of Public Health, those without work were more likely to turn to alcohol.

That's understandable.
the unemployed are more depressed.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Gary L

That's understandable.
the unemployed are more depressed.

But where are they getting the surplus money from? Those in work are drinking less, because they can't afford it, whilst those on benefits mysteriously can.

[Gary L]

Eating less.
Selling cheese and meat.
Borrowing.
Ebaying.

Depends what they're drinking too. some of them aren't that fussy and drink the jumbo bottles of cider.

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Since the Tories came into power, they have brought terrible hardship on various parts of this country.

I don't give a damn of people say about me having a dig at the Tories - this is NOT a third world country, where those countries depend on the Red Cross for food.

During the war our troops depended on this supply. Cameron and Clegg boast that they will continue to send billions of pounds to countries that dont need this AID

Yet, the people in this country cannot afford food to live and depend on food banks and now commit shoplifting to feed there familes.

This should not happen here, its NOT Labour fault, its the coalition that has brought in the Bedroom Tax, Even l have to downsize and l have a job. I cannot pay bills myself and have to ecomise to save money.

It should NOT happen in this country for the Red Cross to feed the poor. The next thing we will have is the Sally Army on street coorners with food trolleys.

When l was a young kid, l depended on jumble sales and free food given out by shops and going down the market on a Saturday night picking up scraps of food and meat to survive.

This is 2013, when food is plentiful, and yet we have families depending on charites - IT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

Arthur there was terrible hardship in the uk long before May 2010.

what makes you think this is a third world country? please explain this to me without using the words Tory or Cameron or Clegg or coalition. (add Maggie into that as well)

Have you been shopping lately? Have you seen the cost of staple items on the shelves of the big 4 supermarkets? do you think that the upsurge in prices is down to the current government or do you think that prices are artificially inflated to boost profits for shareholder's.

What happened when you was a kid growing up has no relevance to your or others positions today.

You really do feel hard done by don't you?

We found out on Tuesday that our income will be dropping significantly due to my wife being made redundant. You won't hear me banging on about it, blaming others for our shortfalls. If thing are tight, which I'm sure they will be we will make cutbacks, sky/vm will go, phones, broadband and anything else that could be classed as a luxury.

You say that you can't pay your bills and have to economise, yet from what i can see you don't seem to be struggling that much, you have not long brought a car, your broadband seems to be working well and yet you can't pay your bills?
Well my friend its all about prioritising and you doing seem to be able to do it that well. You seem to be happy blaming everyone else for issues that arise in your household instead of taking stock and putting your own house in order.

Whilst I personally know many people who are struggling financially and read about many others online and in newspapers etc, you are by far the grumpiest old git I have ever come across. My wife and kids calk me a grumpy old man, but by Christ if they knew you I would be on the same level calmness as the Pope.

[Osem]

Arthur's always as long on ill-informed rhetoric as he is short on facts and answers so I prescribe a couple of these to be taken as and when required:



You'll have more chance of a meaningful debate with a wall and feel better afterwards too...