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Old 09-10-2013, 12:38   #16
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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all about maximum profit and sales. nothing else.
Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs
Ok. tax.

but from what I've read it reads that they won't be classing them as medicine anymore?

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I personally think that the whole country will be divided soon anyway.
rich v poor.

the poor will just buy on the black market (which will expand massively)
and the rich will be the mugs that pay the tax on the government stuff.

you could say that this is what they've foreseen happening anyway.
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Old 09-10-2013, 13:34   #18
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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This is one of the major flaws of the EU . Their overwhelming need to control everything that we do. Be it personal choice with smoking, drinking, drugs, movement across borders etc. Even the reclassification of e-cigs to a medicine so that they can control and tax that too.
Feck the EU and all their bigoted representatives.
What on Earth would all the Eurocrats do to earn a crust if they didn't have everyone's affairs to meddle with?
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Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs
They won't be able to tax them now after the EU ruling on them on Tuesday.

Mcaven proved to be worthy of nothing and a mouthpiece for the Pharma Companies and Tobacco Companies.

There's thousands of people giving up the weed on a weekly basis for the more healthy Vaping option.

The Government are losing out on revenue from the sale of Tobacco.

I noticed that she requested for further negotiations which, proves to me that she's being paid by the big Pharma and Tobacco Companies.
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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They won't be able to tax them now after the EU ruling on them on Tuesday.

Mcaven proved to be worthy of nothing and a mouthpiece for the Pharma Companies and Tobacco Companies.

There's thousands of people giving up the weed on a weekly basis for the more healthy Vaping option.

The Government are losing out on revenue from the sale of Tobacco.

I noticed that she requested for further negotiations which, proves to me that she's being paid by the big Pharma and Tobacco Companies.
E cigs are far safer than real fags and yet the Government and the EU want to tax them out of existence. I never understand the idiots in power whoever they may be
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:20   #21
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E cigs are far safer than real fags and yet the Government and the EU want to tax them out of existence. I never understand the idiots in power whoever they may be
Yup, the Government and the tobacco companies must be losing a fortune with people switching to the Vapor options.

There was something on the news this morning about the government losing billions of pounds a year to illegal tobacco imports, there's no call for tobacco imports anymore vaping is the way to go.
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?
Yes to the VAT.
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?
No because there's no tobacco in them.
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

Anyone with common sense buys them online from the UK or abroad. Same product for a lower cost. They would be even more popular if high street shops and the likes of E-lites buggered off.
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Anyone with common sense buys them online from the UK or abroad. Same product for a lower cost. They would be even more popular if high street shops and the likes of E-lites buggered off.
A mate of mine sells them from his shop round here, I'm in the process of converting over from the smelly ciggies onto Vaping.

A set up has cost me just under £45.00, I'll have my money back within 2 weeks if I keep off the ciggies.

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e-cigarettes are not VAT exempt but do not have to pay the additional duty that is set on real ciggies. Most prices are shown with VAT added at 20% or 5% depending upon classification:



Linky

The exact definitions are still somewhat vague even from HMRC.
That link was before the EU voted against making them a medicinal product.

The EU has seen sense for once, the Government are running scared because they're going to lose billions in revenue.
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A mate of mine sells them from his shop round here, I'm in the process of converting over from the smelly ciggies onto Vaping.

A set up has cost me just under £45.00, I'll have my money back within 2 weeks if I keep off the ciggies.

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That link was before the EU voted against making them a medicinal product.

The EU has seen sense for once, the Government are running scared because they're going to lose billions in revenue.
You can get them much cheaper but it doesn't matter because you're still better off, once you're into the vaping game and know the ins and outs you'll see there's a different side to it. I know a site that's selling 100ml for £18 which is very good and it's not half bad stuff either.
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Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?

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You can get them much cheaper but it doesn't matter because you're still better off, once you're into the vaping game and know the ins and outs you'll see there's a different side to it. I know a site that's selling 100ml for £18 which is very good and it's not half bad stuff either.
Cheers for the PM, that site looks the poodles.

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