General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.

[ocav]

Originally Posted by Chad

Maybe however that wouldn't add much value to Virgin customers. Say for example SKY Atlantic launches at the end of this month on Virgin, in time for series 4 of Boardwalk Empire, what use is that to Virgin customers who have never seen the show and can't go back and watch the first 3 series? They are very unlikely to start watching knowing they've already missed about 36 episodes.

It's the same with most shows on SKY Atlantic at the moment. They are all into series 3, 4 and 5. Understandably some people might have been buying DVD boxsets of these shows over the past 3 years, or downloading them illegally, so are able to jump right in should Atlantic launch. I can only guess however that these people are in the minority.

If SKY Atlantic does launch the on demand content is a must in order to get people interested and watching the shows. Without this, what's the point?

That's not for Virgin to worry about really. If Atlantic launches it may mean Sky customers will switch when their contracts end, winner for virgin regardless of old on demand content.

If Atlantic launches and viewership on the channel doesn't go up, that's for Sky to worry about, not Virgin. It'll then make Sky realise they should probably of given it out sooner.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If people can wait a little while, I'm pretty sure Sky Atlantic programming will become available on other channels and then eventually on free channels.

HBO shows will only be available on Sky whilst they have the rights. They have shown S1 of GOT on Sky One. I can't see any Sky Atlantic HBO shows appearing on free to air channels; Sky have a habit of buying both first and second run rights to the shows they aquire.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by yorkshireborn

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so XL will stay the same as it is now?

XL will focus more on the on demand side of things such as Netflix , Lovefilm , Picturebox and the sports channels i mentioned.
All i can say is LG want to change the the current packages and have huge plans to overhauil everything and really challenge Sky in terms of value.

[spankysmagicpian]

Are you sure about that theone? I read recently that LG are not so much concerned about increasing subscribers but more along the lines of increasing the ARP from their existing subscribers.

I agree with the thought that only paying for channels that you want will drive the price up. Everyone has different viewing tastes and while you may save on some, for the more niche channels, you'll end up paying more. I think that this would even be the case with say Discovery. I would pay but in terms of household numbers, there would be a substantial number who wouldn't.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian

Are you sure about that theone? I read recently that LG are not so much concerned about increasing subscribers but more along the lines of increasing the ARP from their existing subscribers.

I agree with the thought that only paying for channels that you want will drive the price up. Everyone has different viewing tastes and while you may save on some, for the more niche channels, you'll end up paying more. I think that this would even be the case with say Discovery. I would pay but in terms of household numbers, there would be a substantial number who wouldn't.

All i can say is cable TV and sattelite is about to change big time. Liberty Global are very serious about VM being a success and their have been rumours about more areas getting cabled too.

[harry_hitch]

*ignites a minor amount of bluetouch paper*

Personally, I do not understand the whole "de-valueation" of the XL package. It has been established on here in the past that we basically pay of the HD channels as part of our subscription. Also, there are still many channels, and many on-damand programmes I would miss if I dropped down packages. For me, XL still offers very good value.

I understand people may be upset about channels being available on other packages, but if VM and the studio can make more revenue through advertising to more punters, where is the problem? The additional revenue will only benefit XL customers in the long term.

I know many people who would like to watch the next series of the walking dead when it premieres, but can not due to a lack of finances. Why should they have to wait? It is only studio greed that has stopped watching it in the past.

If the studio and VM can afford to let them have it on a lower tariff, then let them have it.

Lets face it, the extra revenue could pay for netflix or in an unlikely state of affairs, Sky Atlantic.

The option to downgrade is never more than 12 months away though!!!!

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

XL will focus more on the on demand side of things such as Netflix , Lovefilm , Picturebox and the sports channels i mentioned.
All i can say is LG want to change the the current packages and have huge plans to overhauil everything and really challenge Sky in terms of value.

I didn't know that Netflix showed new series too! I thought it was just films and some archive series.

On a programme review show that I have just seen, it says that Netflix is showing a new series called 'Breaking Bad'.

[heavyside]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

All i can say is LG want to change the the current packages and have huge plans to overhauil everything and really challenge Sky in terms of value.

That I find really intriguing!

[ocav]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I didn't know that Netflix showed new series too! I thought it was just films and some archive series.

On a programme review show that I have just seen, it says that Netflix is showing a new series called 'Breaking Bad'.

Breaking Bad isn't New, it's the 6th season it used to be on Fox but Netflix grabbed the rights (silly Fox)

Netflix also produced and are the first broadcasters for;

- Arrested Development (Season 4)
- House of Cards (Season 1 and soon to be made Season 2)
- Orange is the New Black (season 1)

And a few other shows but those are just off the top of my head

[TAZMANUK]

But how if true their going to include a ps4 on vip on rental basis does that include free repairs etc


Or they doing a similar thing that microsoft is doing where you pay higher for online live where u payback so much each month until paid off like a zero interest rate

[ocav]

Originally Posted by TAZMANUK

But how of true their going to include a ps4 on vip

Where this rumour come from? Sounds like it would scrape the barrell clean! Maybe as a special offer. I know smallworld looked into it and their cheapest price for it would be £45 a month just for 10mb broadband and the console on rent

[TAZMANUK]

Look at theone comment it was on that maybe included in vip.

The upside would be is that u can connect a cable or sat box to xbox one via a hdmi thru cable provided.

Is sony did the same so tivo could be connected same way so you could quickly switch from ps4 to tivo or even split screen then a double whammy would be tivo could display what films games apps you could buy from psn via tivo system and link psn with tivo and vice versa.

So if you wanted to buy a ps4 game you could via tivo ps4 app if ever made or via on demand menu and on psn search for virgin stuff via psn.

Ps vita could get tv anywhere app when it ever arrives

[ocav]

Originally Posted by TAZMANUK

Look at theone comment it was on that maybe included in vip.

The upside would be is that u can connect a cable or sat box to xbox one via a hdmi thru cable provided.

Is sony did the same so tivo could be connected same way so you could quickly switch from ps4 to tivo or even split screen then a double whammy would be tivo could display what films games apps you could buy from psn via tivo system and link psn with tivo and vice versa.

So if you wanted to buy a ps4 game you could via tivo ps4 app if ever made or via on demand menu and on psn search for virgin stuff via psn.

Ps vita could get tv anywhere app when it ever arrives

PS4 won't show Tivo through it as the hardware has no HDMI in.

I highly doubt it, maybe they will make it a separate package like a phone contract. You pay X a month and we give your broadband and a PS4, you keep it at the end of the 24 months.

[heavyside]

There was some press - last year I think - about a company (can't remember the name) wanting to launch gaming through web-connected smart TVs (which would include TiVo). The idea was that there would be no need of a console at the users end as all the games would be stored on the company's servers and sent over the internet to the customer's TV. I wondered at the time if VM would pick this up.

Edit - here is the game company Onlive http://games.onlive.com/game-system. I remember there was some talk about a TV app to do the work of their dongle or mini-console.

[cupcakes aka dd]

How would the PS4 account work. Would you use your exisiting account? If you had to create a new account and bought loads of games on the rental machine would they remain yours if you gave the machine back?