30-09-2013, 01:18
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by Kushan
As for the justification, I don't think a single person can justify needing 100meg or higher just yet. But a house full of people is a different matter.
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Define "justify" and "needing". I used to "need" several gigabit connections.
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30-09-2013, 01:37
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FORMER Virgin Media Staff
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
Define "justify" and "needing". I used to "need" several gigabit connections.
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I'd wager those gigabit connections were for business rather than pleasure, though. That's a bit different.
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30-09-2013, 11:46
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
You suggesting I you couldn't pleasure yourself using three gigabit lines hooked up to a 2x10Gbit internet?
Though usually the business tariffs are *slower* than the consumer ones - VM Business broadband only goes up to 50Mb right now, so presumably they think businesses need even less.
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30-09-2013, 11:52
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
Though usually the business tariffs are *slower* than the consumer ones - VM Business broadband only goes up to 50Mb right now, so presumably they think businesses need even less.
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No it doesn't - they go up to at least 1Gb/sec http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...ternet-Access/
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30-09-2013, 12:03
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
You seem to be looking at the wrong page. You'll see I clearly stated "business broadband" , yet I cannot find the words "Business broadband" mentioned anywhere on that page, aside from in a link to a different part of the site. Managed leased lines != business broadband. Click the business broadband button and you will find:
http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...ess-Broadband/
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And when we say superfast, we mean it – our business broadband goes right up to 50Mbit/s.
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30-09-2013, 13:03
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FORMER Virgin Media Staff
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
You suggesting I you couldn't pleasure yourself using three gigabit lines hooked up to a 2x10Gbit internet?
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Well there's not exactly a lot of 8k 3D porn around these days. Believe me, I've checked!
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
You seem to be looking at the wrong page. You'll see I clearly stated "business broadband" , yet I cannot find the words "Business broadband" mentioned anywhere on that page, aside from in a link to a different part of the site. Managed leased lines != business broadband. Click the business broadband button and you will find:
http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...ess-Broadband/
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Well sure, but I think nobody's under the illusion that a leased line is generally meant for businesses rather than personal use (unless you've got money to burn). Business broadband I suppose is aimed at smaller businesses that can't quite afford a leased line but still want something with high reliability. It is surprising that Virgin are still only doing 50mbit business though, though I believe you can bond a few of those together?
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30-09-2013, 13:33
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by Kushan
Well there's not exactly a lot of 8k 3D porn around these days. Believe me, I've checked!
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You obviously arent looking in the right places
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30-09-2013, 14:07
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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You obviously arent looking in the right places
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He's too busy humping his avatar thingie!
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30-09-2013, 16:54
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by Kushan
Well sure, but I think nobody's under the illusion that a leased line is generally meant for businesses rather than personal use (unless you've got money to burn). Business broadband I suppose is aimed at smaller businesses that can't quite afford a leased line but still want something with high reliability. It is surprising that Virgin are still only doing 50mbit business though, though I believe you can bond a few of those together?
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Exactly - business broadband is generally considered an unmanaged internet-access only service for businesses that need internet access but short of those who depend on it for their core business - and as you say small businesses of comparable size to average households rather than giant corporates with 200+ staff in each office. An electronics company sending complex designs and simulations to remote manufacturers will have different requirements to a family restaurant receiving bookings over the internet. That said, I recall the average number of employees in a UK business was on the order of... 4 (with the mode being 1), so I'd posit the "average" or vast majority of businesses wanting internet access for their 4 employees will be going for vanilla or business broadband and not even considering a leased line.
Similarly, that'd be my whole point that it's surprising they still only do 50Mb business broadband - though even that had been temporarily halted due to problems with the Superhub a year or two ago, I'm not sure when it resumed but for a while while 100Mb was being rolled out the best you could get on business was 20Mb.
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You obviously arent looking in the right places
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That's what she said.
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30-09-2013, 18:12
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
You obviously arent looking in the right places
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Oooh show me the way king!
aaaanyway I've been approved to have another connection so i'm going to ring and book it when I know my rota for the next month. Will keep you updated.
144mbps even when STM'd yummy!
I plan to invest in that router etc but silly question time.
if I had 1 connected to ethernet and 1 on wireless using N adapter would the PC take both connections at the same time? I like to have blonde moments on a Monday
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30-09-2013, 20:15
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
nope, but it doesn't matter anyway because you'll still get full speed. Because computers know wired connections should be faster than wireless, if you are currently connected wirelessly and then you connect a cable to your pc you'll see the wireless connection disappear from the task bar. This doesn't matter though because you are not asking the computer to use both wan connections simultaneously, you are asking the router to do it. Whether you are connected by wire or wirelessly, the router will load balance the traffic across both the connections and give you the best speed.
The only snafu I can see if that the router doesn't have wireless which means you'll have to use another one as a wireless access point. You'll need to do some reading and understand the technology and whole antenna thing to make sure you get one which can truely do 300mbits+ wirelessly (and correspondingly the wireless adapter supports it on any wireless devices you are planning to use)
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30-09-2013, 21:00
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
I guess my old TP link won't cut the mustard.
But it's okay I am totally wired apart from my Ipad but I can live with that.
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30-09-2013, 23:47
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Virgin Media Staff
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
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No you have been told right, as I went and double checked the process before I mentioned it
It's that advice which isn't correct. I'll pick it up with the forum colleagues tomorrow.
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01-10-2013, 00:08
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Re: Virgin 2 way splitter
okay thanks Ben,
Please don't think I thought you were wrong, I never doubted you for one minute.
I am glad I raised that now and thanks for offering to feed it back, It's good to see. The other person might want to be told off if you can find out who they are? Potential sale etc if anyone wants it!
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So I have a 1000/100 card. That router that Ignition suggested is also 1000/100 so I should be okay. It has 2 spare wan/lan ports so I could in threoy get a cheap used tp=link AP to plug into that and then I could have wireless too? I assume I would have to put both hubs into modem mode to feed them in properly?
Ive seen some models on ebay ( I think 1043nd or something simular) for £10 and they do upto 300mbps. I don't pay for my power so I am not fussed about how much it uses
Sorry or the questions. I've been reading the manual online all day today and I think I can understand it if not I can get it sorted
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