Riots - Page 95

**Damien** · 31-01-2013, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Derek

He knew the Police were behind him. He would have been well aware they were armed officers.

If he did ANYTHING other than follow the Police orders exactly then he would have known its likely the Police would open fire.

Personally I'd like to see the person who claimed at the trial she saw the Police plant the gun should be done with perjury.

I agree but we need to ascertain the exactly circumstances of what happened.

Osem · 31-01-2013, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

He knew the Police were behind him. He would have been well aware they were armed officers.

If he did ANYTHING other than follow the Police orders exactly then he would have known its likely the Police would open fire.

Personally I'd like to see the person who claimed at the trial she saw the Police plant the gun should be done with perjury.

Me too!

thenry · 05-02-2013, 20:06

has this been posted...

DNA tag gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk65e...e_gdata_player

Stuart · 26-02-2013, 19:31

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Originally Posted by martyh

http://news.sky.com/story/1045625/ma...-supplying-gun

And the metpoliceuk twitter feed is now reporting

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@metpoliceuk: NEWS: Kevin Hutchinson-Foster sentenced to 11 years in prison for supplying a firearm to Mark Duggan.

Sirius · 26-02-2013, 19:42

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Originally Posted by Stuart

And the metpoliceuk twitter feed is now reporting

I saw that the riots thread came active and looked in expecting a post by GaryL

Osem · 26-02-2013, 19:47

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Originally Posted by Stuart

And the metpoliceuk twitter feed is now reporting

No you've got it wrong there was NO firearm remember.

thenry · 26-02-2013, 19:53

so this was for nothing

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Originally Posted by thenry

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdhE...e_gdata_player

i think ive blown a fuse listening to that again!

Derek · 26-09-2013, 09:20

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Mark Duggan "may not have been an angel" but he should not have been shot dead by police, his mother has said.

Pamela Duggan sobbed as her statement was read at an inquest into her son's death

Is there a specific reason why this is allowed as evidence at an inquest? Surely the only evidence should relate to whether or not the shooting was justified or not? A mothers statement would only serve as emotional ammunition to one side.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24240168

Doug P · 26-09-2013, 09:26

It certainly does not come under traditional definition of a witness giving evidence which must not be opinion or hearsay but am not a legal expert.

Osem · 26-09-2013, 09:36

Sorry but I have as much sympathy for the likes of Duggan as they have for their many victims.

Russ · 26-09-2013, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Derek

Is there a specific reason why this is allowed as evidence at an inquest?

Yep, politics.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Sorry but I have as much sympathy for the likes of Duggan as they have for their many victims.

Yeah but don't forget he was only a (plastic) 'gangsta' because "society turned him in to one".

**Damien** · 03-12-2013, 16:28

Inquest has heard that it was a phone, not a gun, according to a witness. This inquest is going on a long time:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...s-8980615.html

I am still not clear on if he had a gun or not.

edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24947695

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He said he was told the firearm was found approximately 14ft (4.3m) from Mr Duggan.

Nidge41 · 03-12-2013, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Damien

Inquest has heard that it was a phone, not a gun, according to a witness. This inquest is going on a long time:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...s-8980615.html

I am still not clear on if he had a gun or not.

edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24947695

It sounds like the Police have got their stories sorted out. How can that guy who was so many floors up in the flat see that he had a gun??

While I do agree on some part with the Armed Police as they've got to make a snap decision which can result in the loss of a life.

**Damien** · 03-12-2013, 18:01

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Originally Posted by Nidge41

It sounds like the Police have got their stories sorted out. How can that guy who was so many floors up in the flat see that he had a gun??

Well this is one witness amongst many in the inquest. Once it's all completed we should hopefully have a better idea.

Derek · 04-12-2013, 05:53

So a witness several floors up, whose first instinct was to make money from the footage by selling it, initially says it was a gun then changes his mind to it being a phone AFTER reading newspaper reports and admits in court he hates the Police is classed as credible when he says Duggan was executed???