The state benefits system mega-thread.

[Jimi]

This website is excellent for anyone in need of help v Atos.

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/emp...port-allowance

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Originally Posted by Chris

The union is going nowhere, by bicycle or by any other means.

The Record is a separatist rag, sounds like you're reading it too closely.

Roughly 14 inches away.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Jimi

This website is excellent for anyone in need of help v Atos.

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/emp...port-allowance.

While some of the information they provide is good I don't think they should profit from providing it. I think people go to places like the cab where such info is free.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

While some of the information they provide is good I don't think they should profit from providing it. I think people go to places like the cab where such info is free.

Cab is only as good as the volunteers running it, some are amazing others not so good, my advice would be to visit several offices.

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

While some of the information they provide is good I don't think they should profit from providing it. I think people go to places like the cab where such info is free.

CAB is brilliant but since Atos started they have been over run with work.

[deakin]

Originally Posted by peanut

Did you supply all that info with the ESA50 form?

Everything apart from one consultants report that only reached me a week or so before the ATOS interview. Personally i think no matter what information one hands over to the dwp they have been instructed to send all but the most severely disabled to ATOS interviews by the government.

After all why spend millions on a private firm and not use them, that would be a waist of tax payers money right ?

[peanut]

The latest smear campaign has just been released.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rage-work.html

What a nasty piece of work from the British Social Attitudes Survey / Mail. But it'll add fuel to the fire of the all the scroungers out there.

Originally Posted by peanut

The latest smear campaign has just been released.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rage-work.html

What a nasty piece of work from the British Social Attitudes Survey / Mail. But it'll add fuel to the fire of the all the scroungers out there.

I do agree though that "some" get to much. A single person on JSA gets very little but a baby machine with 5 kids gets way to much and will not be better off working even with the universal credit

[dilli-theclaw]

HHHmmm Natalie and I would be financially better off if she gave up work and looked after me at home.

Unfortunately what with one thing and another it looks like we are going to have to take that step at some point this year.

I do wonder if that means that I / we/ would be getting 'too much' benefits.

[jb66]

I know people who are no better off working so they dont

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

HHHmmm Natalie and I would be financially better off if she gave up work and looked after me at home.

Unfortunately what with one thing and another it looks like we are going to have to take that step at some point this year.

I do wonder if that means that I / we/ would be getting 'too much' benefits.

anyone judging you harshly will not know your circumstances so screw them

[denphone]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

anyone judging you harshly will not know your circumstances so screw them

Exactly as many are very quick to make ignorant and ill informed presumptions about people without knowing the full circumstances about their disabilitities and illnesses.

[peanut]

I agree there are some circumstances were it can be acceptable to say it can be too much money. Just ESA Support with DLA could be close to £1k a month alone (though won't be eligibility for anything else like C.Tax & HB). But from that report its basing it on the jobless / JSA only claiments so it reads like people think £71 a week is now too much.

And the funny thing is I'm sure that there are people that are getting close to £1k a month would just accept half of that if it means more security because of the ever moving goal posts which means people live under the threat of losing everything.

I tried to help a guy yesterday who had been sanction for not doing the jobsearch correctly. He kept on telling them he is no good with computers but they insisted he had to do it online. He come here with the website details an email address and password none of which allowed access to the job site or his email so they did not even give him usable information

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I tried to help a guy yesterday who had been sanction for not doing the jobsearch correctly. He kept on telling them he is no good with computers but they insisted he had to do it online. He come here with the website details an email address and password none of which allowed access to the job site or his email so they did not even give him usable information

Had to help someone in the same way last week. The guy is very simple in a special way and has never used a computer but they expected him to create an email address, login to a gov website, search for jobs and fill in forms on the site and upload/attach his cv. He has no computer so he was told to it at the library. No way in hell he could have done it himself and they told him its the only way to do it or he loses his money. Unbelievable.

Both of those instances are completely inappropriate behaviours on behalf of the Job Centre - they should complain.

The JSA website states if you can't do it online, you can do it by phone - this advice should have been passed on.

If you can't use this service please phone Jobcentre Plus, where a customer service agent will help you with your application.

https://www.gov.uk/contact-jobcentre-plus