Superhub : Spare Super Hub, would like to Clone Working Super Hub Downstairs

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by horseman

Yet another intriguing gem!

"rewrites"? Did you infer that from Seph's post (because that's neither what he said from my limited comprehension nor I doubt what he even "infered"!) OR from someone/somewhere else?

What I am "inferring" is "not on my Superhub it doesn't"

[horseman]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

What I am "inferring" is "not on my Superhub it doesn't"

Then we should note this memorable moment in history where I suspect at least 3 of us will agree on 1 small thing - thanks for the clarification.

[kwikbreaks]

New ones turn up on R19 or at least they used to but once that has been updated over the wire then SFAIK there is no way back to R19.

I've factory reset them in the past when firmware glitches corrupted the port forwarding I'd set up and that didn't alter the firmware so far as I recall. I guess it's possible that there is an area of eprom memory with R19 in them still and corrupting the live firmware may just cause it to revert to that but how you'd force that I've no idea. Maybe as QAS has had them apart and checked the chips he can say if there is an eprom in them than may contain the original firmware?

TBH hardware wise a cheapo £30 Tenda leaves the thing standing so I'd see messing with it only worthwhile for somebody who enjoyed playing rather than for someone who placed any value on their time.

[horseman]

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

New ones turn up on R19 or at least they used to but once that has been updated over the wire then SFAIK there is no way back to R19.

I've factory reset them in the past when firmware glitches corrupted the port forwarding I'd set up and that didn't alter the firmware so far as I recall. I guess it's possible that there is an area of eprom memory with R19 in them still and corrupting the live firmware may just cause it to revert to that but how you'd force that I've no idea. Maybe as QAS has had them apart and checked the chips he can say if there is an eprom in them than may contain the original firmware?…...

Not neccessary to ask QAS as that info is already in the public domain however forum t&c's prevent disclosing the source although I hope just publishing a small extract is still acceptable for academic purposes only:

"With interactive access obtained it was possible to explore the eCos (embedded configurable OS) device further. From this interactive console state it was possible to read and write to the flash chip and resident memory; meaning it was possible to obtain the compressed firmware images. From the eCos CLI it was possible to extract the contents of the flash chip meaning that the compressed firmware, backup firmware, boot loader could be downloaded as well as dynamic and permanent (non-user definable) storage areas. Additionally by exploring the read_memory command it was possible to extract the uncompressed OS as it was running from resident memory on the device. MD5 sums of the extracted files from the flash storage can be seen in the terminal output below".

Of course reverse engineering any product from any vendor is invariably a contravention of service provider and/or manufacturers t&c's!

EDIT: ….and the ability to index two firmware images is by no means specific to a model or even category of network equipment as I also found a similar scenario on my (albeit still Netgear managed switch)!:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I don't agree with Rob. After 90 days, it becomes abandoned property with which you can do as you please.

BTW, and the brainios here might help you further, if you factory reset the SH1 it will be at firmware R19. You can then SSH into it and do all sorts of things. One or two on this forum (not me) have done this before.

Is this legally correct?

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Is this legally correct?

I think that's the law regarding Unsolicited goods, but I don't believe that's the case here. I have no idea though, either way I don't think Virgin bothers tracking them down unless they appear on ebay or similar.

[kwikbreaks]

My loft is lined with aluminum foil. I think it was done to reduce heat transmission but with luck it will help hide the various defunct Superhubs and modems I stashed there in case the VM stock control system ever requested returns. Perhaps I should send VM an invoice for storage?

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

My loft is lined with aluminum foil. I think it was done to reduce heat transmission but with luck it will help hide the various defunct Superhubs and modems I stashed there in case the VM stock control system ever requested returns. Perhaps I should send VM an invoice for storage?

wonder what else ya growing up there lol

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by horseman

Of course reverse engineering any product from any vendor is invariably a contravention of service provider and/or manufacturers t&c's!

The base firmware is GPL and therefore freely and openly available to any member of the public. Technically VM are obliged to release the source code of their modified version to the public as well and they're violating the license by *not* doing so.

[craigj2k12]

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...b/td-p/1356720