Superhub Spare Super Hub, would like to Clone Working Super Hub Downstairs

a4r0 · 18-08-2013, 11:48

Hi,

Apology if this has been answered before but i cant seem to find a answer.

Ive got a spare Super Hub(from my previous place) and i would like to clone the MAC address of the Super Hub thats working downstairs so i can either use it as a modem and connect a 4 port switch or use it as it is router (can i use the wifi function too? ).

ive split the main coaxial cable out side and have bought it upstairs.

MovedGoalPosts · 18-08-2013, 12:02

You cannot use the spare Super Hub, at least not legally, and if there is a dodgy way of doing this it can't be discussed on the forum. Consider the old hub a brick and recycle it. It should really have been offered for return to VM when your old property's services were terminated.

We should also point out that the co-axial cables are strictly speaking only to be altered by VM. Get it wrong and you could get a bill from VM for fixing it, and worse, you could be introducing issues into the VM network that affect your own and your neighbour's services.

a4r0 · 18-08-2013, 12:20

oooops my bad.

qasdfdsaq · 18-08-2013, 20:37

You can easily use it as a switch and second wifi access point to extend both your wired and wireless network range.

You could theoretically use it as a router but there's no good reason to. Having more than one router on a typical home network is almost always a bad idea.

Kushan · 18-08-2013, 21:07

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

You can easily use it as a switch and second wifi access point to extend both your wired and wireless network range.

You could theoretically use it as a router but there's no good reason to. Having more than one router on a typical home network is almost always a bad idea.

I'm not so sure about this? You'd have to disable DHCP on it, which Virgin doesn't allow. Or let it do the DHCP and use the first superhub in modem mode but that seems largely pointless.

kwikbreaks · 19-08-2013, 10:29

From memory you can set the SH to use an IP range other than the default so you could use two different subnets each with its own DCHP server. I do that with a FON router.

pythagoras · 19-08-2013, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Kushan

I'm not so sure about this? You'd have to disable DHCP on it, which Virgin doesn't allow. Or let it do the DHCP and use the first superhub in modem mode but that seems largely pointless.

Are you sure about the dhcp part? If your correct why is there an option in the GUI to disable dhcp, bearing in mind this is a VM custom gui?

Kushan · 19-08-2013, 14:27

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Originally Posted by pythagoras

Are you sure about the dhcp part? If your correct why is there an option in the GUI to disable dhcp, bearing in mind this is a VM custom gui?

Well now I'm not so sure at all, haha.

a4r0 · 19-08-2013, 14:46

how do i go about use it as a switch and second wifi access point to extend both your wired and wireless network range. as mentioned by qasdfdsaq.

thank you in advance for everyone whos responded.
much appreciated

qasdfdsaq · 19-08-2013, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Kushan

I'm not so sure about this? You'd have to disable DHCP on it, which Virgin doesn't allow. Or let it do the DHCP and use the first superhub in modem mode but that seems largely pointless.

You don't have to disable DHCP but you certainly can, there's nothing Virgin can do to allow or disallow it. Even if they stopped you changing the setting on the Superhub itself (it certainly used to let you disable DHCP) Virgin do not control your computer.

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Originally Posted by pythagoras

Are you sure about the dhcp part? If your correct why is there an option in the GUI to disable dhcp, bearing in mind this is a VM custom gui?

Last I checked the option to disable DHCP in the GUI did exactly what it says on the tin.

Kushan · 19-08-2013, 18:30

Then I stand corrected, I thought the option was hidden.

qasdfdsaq · 19-08-2013, 18:46

Perhaps they did just as bad a job of hiding it as they did with the rest of the Super Hub :P

Mod Edit.

Sephiroth · 19-08-2013, 18:56

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Originally Posted by a4r0

oooops my bad.

I don't agree with Rob. After 90 days, it becomes abandoned property with which you can do as you please.

BTW, and the brainios here might help you further, if you factory reset the SH1 it will be at firmware R19. You can then SSH into it and do all sorts of things. One or two on this forum (not me) have done this before.

qasdfdsaq · 20-08-2013, 13:38

Really?! Factory reset rewrites the firmware?! That's an odd way to do things...

horseman · 20-08-2013, 16:06

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Really?! Factory reset rewrites the firmware?! That's an odd way to do things...

Yet another intriguing gem!

"rewrites"? Did you infer that from Seph's post (because that's neither what he said from my limited comprehension nor I doubt what he even "infered"!) OR from someone/somewhere else?

So yes it would seem odd…. but as you know I'm almost as clueless as yourself (perhaps) so what is the boot loader sequence, and in which part of NVRAM does the firmware reside and does the FR simply flip the index into NVRAM to point towards the alternative firmware location, because logic (pun) suggests there's a choice of at least two locations to select from and load into working memory? So is it "re-write" all the firmware, "re-load" different firmware, rewrites the indexes or does "re-write" mean something different in your perceived context?
Just curious…. again……