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			06-08-2013, 23:49
			
			
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			Don't know if it's worth a mention but since Dozy IDS brought ATOS to these shores no fewer than 11,500 (and counting) have committed suicide.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-08-2013, 23:52
			
			
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				Don't know if it's worth a mention but since Dozy IDS brought ATOS to these shores no fewer than 11,500 (and counting) have committed suicide. 
			
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 At least their not claiming anymore, good work Gideon, Dave, keep it up
 
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2013, 00:00
			
			
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				Don't know if it's worth a mention but since Dozy IDS brought ATOS to these shores no fewer than 11,500 (and counting) have committed suicide. 
			
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 May I be the first in this thread to invite you to provide proof that ATOS has caused the suicide of 11,500 people.
 
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			07-08-2013, 00:20
			
			
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				Don't know if it's worth a mention but since Dozy IDS brought ATOS to these shores no fewer than 11,500 (and counting) have committed suicide. 
			
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				The contract between the DWP and Atos Healthcare was first awarded in  1998. It was renewed for 7 years in 2005 as part of a competitive tender  and extended for 3 years in 2010 through to 2015.
			
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			07-08-2013, 00:24
			
			
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				At least their not claiming anymore, good work Gideon, Dave, keep it up 
 
  
			
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 NOT FUNNY at all !!!
 
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				May I be the first in this thread to invite you to provide proof that ATOS has caused the suicide of 11,500 people. 
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 Read the Daily Record then.  
 
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 I know New Liebour brought it in,IDS/Cameron could have got rid of it but they will......eventually.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2013, 01:41
			
			
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				Don't know if it's worth a mention but since Dozy IDS brought ATOS to these shores no fewer than 11,500 (and counting) have committed suicide. 
			
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				Read the Daily Record then. 
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 you cannot make outrageous claims like that without providing some credible evidence ,that's just disgraceful scaremongering   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2013, 02:31
			
			
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				NOT FUNNY at all !!! 
			
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 Who is joking, think they give a toss, think again.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2013, 08:01
			
			
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				NOT FUNNY at all !!! 
 
 
Read the Daily Record then. 
 
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I know New Liebour brought it in,IDS/Cameron could have got rid of it but they will......eventually. 
			
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			07-08-2013, 09:49
			
			
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				Read the Daily Record then. 
 
			
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 Ah, well there's your problem.  The Mirror for Clydeside lefties.
 
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			07-08-2013, 11:32
			
			
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			My doctor told me a couple of years ago, when i was claiming ESA, that the DWP will not accept her opinions on some medical conditions because she only treated and viewed me in an "office environment" at her surgery. They had no problem accepting the opinion of the ATOS employed nurse who only saw me in her "office environment" at their medical centre though. Strange that. But ATOS did use their "logic integrated medical assessment" which is probably what clinched it....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-08-2013, 02:01
			
			
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			My GP was told that as he had no speciality in my condition his opinion wasn't relevant to the claim despite the fact his area of speciality is rheumatism and my condition is acceptably placed into that specialisation.  Atos has nothing to do with medical truth or affect of condition they are about finding reasons to move people off medical benefits.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-08-2013, 16:10
			
			
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				Ah, well there's your problem.  The Mirror for Clydeside lefties. 
 
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 Not really,the wife buys it,I only read it,as for 'Better Together,' on yer bike laddie.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-08-2013, 17:03
			
			
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				Not really,the wife buys it,I only read it,as for 'Better Together,' on yer bike laddie. 
			
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 The union is going nowhere, by bicycle or by any other means.   
The Record is a separatist rag, sounds like you're reading it too closely.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-08-2013, 17:06
			
			
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			I took two inch thick reports from different consultants detailing my various physical conditions(with cover notes) along with a detailed statement from both my lead physiologist and my case nurse.  
 
With this i held over a letter from my doctors office confirming all the medication i take on a daily basis that causes me rather severe side effects. And after the ATOS doctor gave me a 30 second exam that at most got me to raise my arms to shoulder level only. Can you guess how many point she gave me this time ? 
 
Yipp that's right a big fat zero. Strange as not a year before i was awarded i think about close to the maximum points and my conditions have got much worse since then. 
 
Of course i challenged this and at the tribunal right before i went in the room my CAB rep and the clerk of the court told me it should take about a hour or so. About ten minutes into the interview after the doctor had read my notes she asked me a few questions and then asked me to wait outside.  No more that thirty seconds later my CAB rep came out shook my hand and told me that i had won my appeal.    
 
With the door open we both over heard both the doctor and judge criticize ATOS and the current government on how this it a total waste of tax payers money. And how my case should have never been allowed to get this far. 
 
My rep said that in all the appeals he has gone to. This was the quickest he's ever seen and now he's got nothing to do for the next hour and a half. I felt kinda guilty about this and made a mental note to send him and the others in the CAB office a thank you card and a massive box of chocs.  
 
A few weeks later when my backdated benefits were paid to me i did hand in the chocs along with a thank you card. A few days later they send me a card back wishing me well in the future. 
 
So a huge thanks goes out to CAB and an even bigger f**k you to atos and the government.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I took two inch thick reports from different consultants detailing my various physical conditions(with cover notes) along with a detailed statement from both my lead physiologist and my case nurse.  
 
With this i held over a letter from my doctors office confirming all the medication i take on a daily basis that causes me rather severe side effects. And after the ATOS doctor gave me a 30 second exam that at most got me to raise my arms to shoulder level only. Can you guess how many point she gave me this time ? 
			
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 Did you supply all that info with the ESA50 form?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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