TiVo : Have you changed/cancelled your account since ESPN closing?

[pythagoras]

Originally Posted by young_timbo

and am never wrong on.

Surely you mean *and I am never wrong* Oops, that would mean that you are wrong about never being wrong.

[ocav]

Originally Posted by young_timbo

This is very easy to answer my friends so sit back at await another demolition:

Here is how reality works. It is possible to have an overwhelming majority of people, but also have a minority than still numbers huge massive and great. Therefore we have a situation where huge massive great numbers of people have already left, but this is still a minority compared to all the other people who show now awareness and will only discover they are missing a sports channel just as the season kicks off. Think of it This way. Let's say a huge great massive minority of 300m people die in China from an Alien Invasion, this would still leave over 700 million alive who would make up the majority of people in China.

I thank you, and I await 2 apologies now thank you very much

Also I am unemployed and i can do whatever i want, i can go to bed whenever i want and do whatever I want really so no doubt about that. I have no bedtime and i can appear at any time, so keep on your toes. I have the distinct advantage of being to to watch loads of football and sports broadcasting due to no job. Further increasing my already 2nd to none knowledge of football broadcasting which I know everything about, and am never wrong on.

Seen as you know so much about Sports Broadcasting from watching a tv channel?

What's the best way to input a live feed into a vision mixer then create a direct connection to playout for best quality in a live outdoor streaming environment like a football match?

I see also that being unemployed gives you a distinct "advantage" to pay a lot of money for a sports packages.

[JohnR5573]

Originally Posted by geordiechris

Hi, I'm just interested in whether people have changed their package, done nothing or cancelled service(s) with VM since their failure to provide BT Sports as a replacement for ESPN.

I have looked into reducing my package, however it seems that I already have multiple discounts. I have been told by retention's that if I changed my package in anyway, such as removing sports, or sports and movies my bill would actually go up!

It appears virgin have me trapped as any change in my package except leaving would increase my bill.

The main reasons I would/could not move to Sky are; it would cost a fortune as I have x3 boxes, the best BB speed is slower than my mobile and I hated loosing TV in bad weather.

From the first batch of matches on BT I'm not missing to much of my teams football, but unfortunately I am also a Rugby union fan, so gutted about that.

Sorry for going on a bit, I'm new to forums as a whole never mind this one and thought it was an interesting question you posed.

[Mr Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by young_timbo

This is very easy to answer my friends so sit back at await another demolition:

Here is how reality works. It is possible to have an overwhelming majority of people, but also have a minority than still numbers huge massive and great. Therefore we have a situation where huge massive great numbers of people have already left, but this is still a minority compared to all the other people who show now awareness and will only discover they are missing a sports channel just as the season kicks off. Think of it This way. Let's say a huge great massive minority of 300m people die in China from an Alien Invasion, this would still leave over 700 million alive who would make up the majority of people in China.

I thank you, and I await 2 apologies now thank you very much

Also I am unemployed and i can do whatever i want, i can go to bed whenever i want and do whatever I want really so no doubt about that. I have no bedtime and i can appear at any time, so keep on your toes. I have the distinct advantage of being to to watch loads of football and sports broadcasting due to no job. Further increasing my already 2nd to none knowledge of football broadcasting which I know everything about, and am never wrong on.

No, I must thank you for making me laugh so much this morning!. That was your intention wasn't it? I'd be a touch embarrassed if it wasn't and you're actually being serious.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by young_timbo

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Also I am unemployed

I can't say I'm surprised...

[johnathome]

I've voted for staying the same at this time. I'm gonna give it till the PL starts before i make a decision.
I'm out of contract on all 3 services so can cancel anything at anytime.

[neilo]

Wow! Is all I can say.

Just phoned up to cancel, had an argument with the lady about whether BT Infinity is at my address or not. It definitely is. She said that from using cable.co.uk (not the BT ADSL checker then?!) my address can't get infinity. I've just gone onto cable.co.uk and without a BT phone number you seem to have to click on more options and then the infinity products are listed. She swore blind I couldn't get infinity and said that Ofcom have approved cable.co.uk?? Pretty pants website then if it doesn't clearly give the right information.

When I asked her if she could check BTs ADSL checker lo and behold, she can't access it.
To be honest, I thought that was pretty bad. Trying to mislead someone to keep hold of them. Also she would only let me cancel my TV service which I've definitely done after that conversation!

Has anyone else managed to get out of their broadband and telephone in contract as well?

[ocav]

Originally Posted by neilo

Wow! Is all I can say.

Just phoned up to cancel, had an argument with the lady about whether BT Infinity is at my address or not. It definitely is. She said that from using cable.co.uk (not the BT ADSL checker then?!) my address can't get infinity. I've just gone onto cable.co.uk and without a BT phone number you seem to have to click on more options and then the infinity products are listed. She swore blind I couldn't get infinity and said that Ofcom have approved cable.co.uk?? Pretty pants website then if it doesn't clearly give the right information.

When I asked her if she could check BTs ADSL checker lo and behold, she can't access it.
To be honest, I thought that was pretty bad. Trying to mislead someone to keep hold of them. Also she would only let me cancel my TV service which I've definitely done after that conversation!

Has anyone else managed to get out of their broadband and telephone in contract as well?

You wont be able to get out of Broadband and Phone as they are still fulfilling their part of the contract (they are with TV too but I wont go into that)

[neilo]

Sounds like a challenge to me!

[Chad]

Originally Posted by ocav

You wont be able to get out of Broadband and Phone as they are still fulfilling their part of the contract (they are with TV too but I wont go into that)

That was my understanding too however people have reported on the Virgin Media Community Forum that Virgin have allowed them to cancel all services, without penatly, whilst in contract term due to ESPN being removed. It's a bit mixed as others have suggested Virgin have asked for £100 disconnect fee.

[Wicked_and_Crazy]

Originally Posted by Chad

That was my understanding too however people have reported on the Virgin Media Community Forum that Virgin have allowed them to cancel all services, without penatly, whilst in contract term due to ESPN being removed. It's a bit mixed as others have suggested Virgin have asked for £100 disconnect fee.

You wouldn't expect consistency from VM would you? Bunch of clowns

[Doug P]

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy

You wouldn't expect consistency from VM would you? Bunch of clowns

Again very harsh but opinion respected if disagreed with....

[RobboEdin]

Originally Posted by neilo

Has anyone else managed to get out of their broadband and telephone in contract as well?

My understanding is that you can cancel all three services if you are contracted via one of the Collections, such as the VIP Collection.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

My understanding is that you can cancel all three services if you are contracted via one of the Collections, such as the VIP Collection.

That is my understanding also.

I'll give them their due, Virgin could have made things difficult for customers looking to cancel their services. Instead they seem to be making it very easy.

[young_timbo]

Originally Posted by ocav

Seen as you know so much about Sports Broadcasting from watching a tv channel?

What's the best way to input a live feed into a vision mixer then create a direct connection to playout for best quality in a live outdoor streaming environment like a football match?

I see also that being unemployed gives you a distinct "advantage" to pay a lot of money for a sports packages.

For a scenario like this, I would personally (as I am not huge on silly over the top camera views, and think this distracts from the viewing experience especially in smaller stadiums) use a 16 input Panasonic HD-SDI Vision Mixer for my live feeds and some variety of vertical interleave switching router. Any will do. I would tinker with my setup and settings to have all the cameras in the football stadium routed to my switcher, and then after the game I would use the router to change all my in-studio cameras over to the switcher instead. This provides an excellent quality broadcast setup because if you make sure the 1 source that is actually ON the screen doesn't get switched nobody will see any sort of on screen buffering/jumping etc, except for the person who is doing the switching who will see a slight 1sec buffering/jump in the broadcast.

i have heard the Vertical Interleave Switching routers it do not even have any delay. Or minimal, much less than 1sec. And will cut between sources almost entirely cleanly. That is why I have chosen that for our scenario, as you asked for "best" (subjective, and all this can be affected by the individual talent of the mixer and the producer, and how they have set up their equipemnt).

In my mixing setup I would ensure i had enabled my 4 channel hardware controller, which would act as a direct connection to the playout.

Obviously being live tv, a manual approach with the playout is required because the automated playout AI can not take into account overlaps of half time, delays etc. So a manual handling is required instead of timecodes, which are usually fine for non-live television.

As far as me being unemployed, i come from a family with access to lots of money. So while i wouldn't say I am rich personally, (i only have a few K in my savings which is nowhere near enough for somebody who loves money, live football, and nights out as much as me, i am fine when it comes to living in my families mansion/food/shower everyday. I pay money in to live here to cover my minimal costs of shower, gas, tv license. So I am ok to have all the latest sports channels and tech. it's not just me who watches the football either, although it is me who pays. it's a necessary essential for me and my life. so more than worth the money. And obviously because i have plenty of free time to play games (can't WAIT for the PS4, and have already paid for mine), i obviously need lots of TV to watch as I'm at home alot when I am not out with mates or enjoying the nice weather, talking to a few birds in clubs. Despite that I expect to be in work again before the end of the year, I would be in work now if i hadn't of been fired. And am considering suing them after september once i have talked it over with my solicitor.