General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.

Originally Posted by andy_m

Of course, the money saved from not paying for ESPN will probably cover any lost customers. From a business point of view, not adding Bt sport probably means reasonable sense.

Reckon you are right

[dougiemacc]

Originally Posted by Dave42

and pay lot more for everything

The main point is that ESPN in the XL package was a great deal. Cant see many people leaving to be 15 quid for it elsewhere (it is NOT worth it)

[young_timbo]

Originally Posted by andy_m

Of course, the money saved from not paying for ESPN will probably cover any lost customers. From a business point of view, not adding Bt sport probably means reasonable sense.

yes from a business point of view, disappointing a ton of current customers and also ensuring no sports fan will ever sign up to their service again makes perfect sense

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by Dave42

and pay lot more for everything

Been offered half price deal for 12 months from sky bud,move my sky hd box upstairs and give me a 2tb one downstairs multiroom free for 12 months and a £12 credit for 12 months to pay for bt sports.really not sure what to do at min,in contract with vm but can downgrade to rock bottom package to see out package,just gonna miss me TiVo

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Been offered half price deal for 12 months from sky bud,move my sky hd box upstairs and give me a 2tb one downstairs multiroom free for 12 months and a £12 credit for 12 months to pay for bt sports.really not sure what to do at min,in contract with vm but can downgrade to rock bottom package to see out package,just gonna miss me TiVo

just see if VM gives us anything Howard they id understand you moving if that what you chose

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by Dave42

lets see if they give us anything first Howard mate

Really don't think we are getting anything bud,spoke to retentions earlier and they told me they have had a lot of cancellations today more than expected and expecting more tomorrow.surely they would have announced something if we were getting anything rather than see customers leave

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Oh that's okay then glad to hear there not losing out like us customers

Its a fine balance though. They have to look at the whole customer base and not just the people who want x y and z.

This has been said a number of times - VM have been growing their customer base faster than Sky for a number of qtrs. even without Sky Atlantic. They will continue to grow their customer base without BT Sports.

So they have to make a shrewd calculation and if BT want more than VM' s calculation the VM will tell them to bugger off

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by Dave42

just see if VM gives us anything Howard they id understand you moving if that what you chose

Hate bt ,not a sky fan.love vm but very disappointed with them at moment bud

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Really don't think we are getting anything bud,spoke to retentions earlier and they told me they have had a lot of cancellations today more than expected and expecting more tomorrow.surely they would have announced something if we were getting anything rather than see customers leave

VM only announce on day of launch now Howard I know where your coming from and hoping VM give us something

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by Top banana

Its a fine balance though. They have to look at the whole customer base and not just the people who want x y and z.

This has been said a number of times - VM have been growing their customer base faster than Sky for a number of qtrs. even without Sky Atlantic. They will continue to grow their customer base without BT Sports.

So they have to make a shrewd calculation and if BT want more than VM' s calculation the VM will tell them to bugger off

And rightly so but as I said on previous post,should have other channels to compensate and they haven't so far at least

[neilo]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Been offered half price deal for 12 months from sky bud,move my sky hd box upstairs and give me a 2tb one downstairs multiroom free for 12 months and a £12 credit for 12 months to pay for bt sports.really not sure what to do at min,in contract with vm but can downgrade to rock bottom package to see out package,just gonna miss me TiVo

I think I'd leave for that! It's a good deal that's for sure!

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by Dave42

VM only announce on day of launch now Howard I know where your coming from and hoping VM give us something

Me to bud,pull something out of the bag.come on mb work yer magic mate

[dougiemacc]

BT surely cant expect many Virgin customers moving to them. As their TV channels are very few with virtually no HD. Is it worth it for a years free BT sport ?

[howardmicks]

Nice to see the decent crew on tonight and not the clowns,nice to see the sky boys (muppetman/chad) not taking the mick out of us poor vm customers also

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Originally Posted by dougiemacc

BT surely cant expect many Virgin customers moving to them. As their TV channels are very few with virtually no HD. Is it worth it for a years free BT sport ?

Nope think sky are gonna end up being the winners out of this one

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by young_timbo

yes from a business point of view, disappointing a ton of current customers and also ensuring no sports fan will ever sign up to their service again makes perfect sense

People just won't be leaving in their droves over this. Let's take as an example the person most desperate to get the new Bt channels - you. You're not leaving, but instead are hooking up your old Sky box. From Virgin's point of view they keep you as a customer and save the money they were paying ESPN out of your monthly subs. So Virgin are quids in. Like I say, from a business point of view, this probably make sense - people like you are the reason why.