Organ donation - your thoughts and views

[Gary L]

I think if you've been on benefits for so long, say 2 years. then you have to be on the donor list as a way of paying back the money.

if you get a job that lasts for say 2 years then you can ask to be considered to be taken off the compulsory list.

but if you had more then 2 kids whilst on benefits then you have no right of appeal.

I remember when we all got along, till they turned us against each other

I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that people on benefits should get their organs harvested. Just pointing out the contrast of arguing against benefit cuts whilst presuming you should be paid for organ donation. On the one side you're arguing for sharing the wealth, taxpayers paying for people in need, and yet on the other you're saying that you expect to be rewarded if you give anything to the state.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think if you've been on benefits for so long, say 2 years. then you have to be on the donor list as a way of paying back the money.

if you get a job that lasts for say 2 years then you can ask to be considered to be taken off the compulsory list.

but if you had more then 2 kids whilst on benefits then you have no right of appeal.

I remember when we all got along, till they turned us against each other

to be fair, Gary, you very rarely got along with anyone.....

hahahaha I crack a joke and look what happens the Jock takes it funny

here is another one. Why do Jocks have long thin penises ? cuz they are tight fisted...... hehehehehehe

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

to be fair, Gary, you very rarely got along with anyone.....

It's not my fault that everybody's idiots

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Aren't you arguing for the state to be less harsh on the housing allowance in the other thread? That's asking society to help people and this is society asking us to help too....

And if you don't help society will help themselves to your organs anyway, it makes a mockery of it being a gift if it's just taken regardless unless you've opted out, a decent society encourages you to do the right thing with adverts, campaigns and maybe incentives one that's already eroding their peoples rights just take them, more and more I don't like the direction this country is going in.

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Originally Posted by Derek

Excellent idea, being paid to help society. Maybe it can be paid weekly or monthly and called something snappy like 'benefits'

Well that would actually be a benefit, perhaps then we'll think of a better name that doesn't give some the sense of entitlement that benefits does for some now.

[Osem]

When my late wife died we donated everything which was still viable without a second thought. When I die I'm happy if anything worth taking is removed from my body - it may not be much but it's the thought that counts...

[spreadsheet]

Originally Posted by rogerdraig

I will be opting out in wales

let's hope you have the same noble considerations
when it comes to pass that you need a kidney transplant
or similar yourself




am sure you will be ranting and raving at NHS staff when unavailability
is the situation


boyo you are a twyp git

[Gary L]

But don't you think that it should be opt in and not opt out?

do we extend it to when you go to the hospital or the doctor you have to have a pint of blood taken?

it's like recycling was fun. now recycling is compulsory.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

* drivel removed *

Ah you can't beat some casual racism.

Originally Posted by Gary L

But don't you think that it should be opt in and not opt out?

do we extend it to when you go to the hospital or the doctor you have to have a pint of blood taken?

it's like recycling was fun. now recycling is compulsory.

No, because that is completely different - you would still be using the blood, and in the case of your death, you would not have any need for any of your organs.

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by spreadsheet

let's hope you have the same noble considerations
when it comes to pass that you need a kidney transplant
or similar yourself




am sure you will be ranting and raving at NHS staff when unavailability
is the situation


boyo you are a twyp git

I forgive you maybe you can't read that well or just didn't read my other posts

This should be a gift and not a presumed consent and the family need final say.

[dilli-theclaw]

I'm on the donor list, aside from my eyes. Not that they would want them anyway.

I made sure Natalie knows too.

As someone who hopefully will be on the transplant list within a couple of years I feel it's a good thing to do.

But I was on the list before I was ill.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

you would still be using the blood

So you think nobody should have a problem if it was compulsory for you to give a pint of blood when you visit an hospital or GP?

and in the case of your death, you would not have any need for any of your organs.

So you think nobody should have a problem with them removing all your organs, simply because you're dead and you won't be needing them anymore anyway?

[SimpleSimon]

My two penny's worth is that if I decide to donate my organs (which I have) then my family should respect that and abide by it otherwise there is no point in having an opt-in scheme which is what I would prefer.