Bring Back Fox Hunting - Page 76

dilli-theclaw · 14-07-2013, 10:14

I've never been to a hunt either as I don't think it's needed I always felt with the vermin problem myself.

PISCES · 14-07-2013, 10:16

I don't need to get out to see what happens, Damien comes to mind!!!!

Sirius · 14-07-2013, 10:20

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Originally Posted by PISCES

I don't need to get out to see what happens, Damien comes to mind!!!!

Then how can you make an informed comment if all you have is what you have read in books and on the internet.

dilli-theclaw · 14-07-2013, 10:20

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Originally Posted by PISCES

I don't need to get out to see what happens, Damien comes to mind!!!!

Damien?

toenails?

talons?

if you don't make sense how do you expect people to understand you?

PISCES · 14-07-2013, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Osem

Is this Toonlight's sister?

Mrs Osem must be using crystal larimar seen as she is a reflexologist

Sirius · 14-07-2013, 10:22

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

I've never been to a hunt either as I don't think it's needed I always felt with the vermin problem myself.

My comments were not aimed at you they are aimed at those who seem to think they know all about fox hunting when it sounds to me like they have never been to a hunt and therefor have not seen the barbarism that happens at them.

dilli-theclaw · 14-07-2013, 10:24

I know

:-)

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Originally Posted by Sirius

My comments were not aimed at you they are aimed at those who seem to think they know all about fox hunting when it sounds to me like they have never been to a hunt and therefor have not seen the barbarism that happens at them.

Sirius · 14-07-2013, 10:25

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

Damien?

toenails?

talons?

if you don't make sense how do you expect people to understand you?

Someone in this thread is higher than i have ever been

PISCES · 14-07-2013, 10:25

Dilligag1701 don't panic love, Dr Sirius is aiming at me, he is correct though, i haven't been to a fox hunt, why would i want to when i have done research into the blood sport!!

**Maggy** · 14-07-2013, 10:27

Topic? Let's please stick to that.

**Chris** · 14-07-2013, 10:29

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

I've never been to a hunt either as I don't think it's needed I always felt with the vermin problem myself.

Hunting's not my thing either, but I've shot or poisoned vermin as necessary in the past.

My objections to the ban are that it is an abuse of democratic principle, in that we are a liberal democracy and therefore the group in power at any given time has no business banning activities enjoyed by minorities as a means of attacking their beliefs or their way of life (or their social class, which we know for a fact was what drove some of the Labour MPs involved).

Furthermore the so called animal rights angle is highly contested - plenty of experts believe that hunting vermin with dogs is a more natural and healthy way of maintaining an ecological balance than random shooting. "fox hunting is cruel" simply is not settled science in the same way that "smoking kills" is. What constitutes cruel is a matter of philosophy as much as it is something that can be determined by measuring stress hormones in a laboratory.

The animal rights brigade mean well, but they are victims of woolly thinking. What is good for a non-sentient species should over-ride what is good for a non-sentient individual, precisely because the individual creatures are not self-aware beings in the way we define ourselves.

This issue was always driven by politics, with science used as a fig leaf. I believe a sufficiently large Tory majority after 2015 will result in its repeal.

Sirius · 14-07-2013, 10:30

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Dilligag1701 don't panic love, Dr Sirius is aiming at me, he is correct though, i haven't been to a fox hunt, why would i want to when i have done research into the blood sport!!

My research was done by ATTENDING the hunts and making an informed judgment from there.

Osem · 14-07-2013, 10:34

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Originally Posted by PISCES

Mrs Osem must be using crystal larimar seen as she is a reflexologist

Nope. Oddly enough her course contained nothing about crystals but a lot about physiology, pathology and anatomy.

TheDaddy · 16-07-2013, 15:04

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How the hell is being chased to exhaustion and then torn apart instantaneous??,and as for my use of "emotive bollocks" then yes rubbing the blood of the dead fox across someones face is barbaric and shows fox hunting for what it is ,pure entertainment.I agree that snaring isn't ideal but if it is done well then there is less suffering .

Most hunt chases last twenty minutes and used to usually involve the fox escaping, now they have little chance of escaping thanks to the rifle or Mr eagle owl so there's even more blood to wipe across peoples faces and I thought we'd moved in from all those silly emotive and incorrect terms like ripped to pieces (except pisces). sirus who has actually been on hunts says he's seen both instant kills and mauling and I trust his word unlike these experts that have been routinely proven wrong throughout this thread.

Doug P · 16-07-2013, 15:13

Am no expert on the hunt for or against, but the law as it stands surely has huge enforcement problems?