Football : Season 2013/14 & Summer Window

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Damien

I wouldn't be too bothered at £23 million but any more is taking the mick. £23 million would not be a bargin and Everton would have done well.

That said I doubt we actually know the circumstances of any actual deal. I remember M'Vila last year when we were 'haggling over a few million' and 'Spurs are ready to swoop in' and we hadn't even expressed an interest.

if its not a bargain then what is? Bender has a 12-13m release clause and Fellaini has a release clause just short of double that. Fellainis taller, prem experience and wants to be a holder although he can attack very very well. Arsenal need to get it done. My worries would be his personal demands tbh but we're not even there yet.

M'Vilas a bore. some actually did say there is no deal or contact or anything on twitter and forums. btw didnt David BBC say there was M'Vila contact?

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Sky Sports sources understand Liverpool are interested in signing Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet and it will take a bid in the region of £9million for any possible deal.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...Simon-Mignolet

Originally Posted by thenry

M'Vilas a bore. some actually did say there is no deal or contact or anything on twitter and forums. btw didnt David BBC say there was M'Vila contact?

Twitter and forums said it was 99% done. David BBC was the first one to say it wasn't done and no contact had been made.

[thenry]

not the whole of twitter and forums. dont get carried away. i remember reading peoples posts on both twitter and forums saying Wenger doesnt want him, his attitude sucks, his antics turned Wenger off etc. etc.

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Aston Villa complete double signing of Jores Okore and Leandro Bacuna

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...leandro-bacuna

interesting signings by Villa, ones to watch

[coulsontom]

Originally Posted by Damien

Manchester City weren't that bad. I thought people overplayed it because they simply associated Mancini, i.e Italians, with bad football. They weren't the most exciting team in the world but they were reasonable to watch and gave a decent game.

people tend to focus too much on the money. I made the general point that wage expenditure tends to be mirrored in league table positions. And this is true (city did finish 2nd). Aston Villa the main current exception but they have dramatically dropped their wages(linked to their relegation scrap)

People come out with "x million should mean y and z". (It needs to be said, teams can hold out for premiums when they know city have cash - is that their fault?)

But it ignores deficiencies in city team:

-lack of proper defensive cover when kompany is injured (near-everpresent in 11/12, missed lots last season)
-lack of pace in midfield
-lack of width to stretch deep defence
-lack of competition in GK pos to keep hart on toes
-lack of creativity from deep/overreliance on silva

I prefer to look at the players. Joleon Lescott is not £24m worth of player, so it's ludicrous to spout that because we paid that much therefore we should win the title.

[TheDaddy]

City's biggest problem imo was letting de Jong go, I think he's so underrated

[thenry]

Originally Posted by coulsontom

people tend to focus too much on the money. I made the general point that wage expenditure tends to be mirrored in league table positions. And this is true (city did finish 2nd). Aston Villa the main current exception but they have dramatically dropped their wages(linked to their relegation scrap)

People come out with "x million should mean y and z". (It needs to be said, teams can hold out for premiums when they know city have cash - is that their fault?)

spend=league finish blah blah its mostly inefficiencies if anything. apart from Fergie whos consistently maintained excellent efficiency with spend? no one, not even Wenger. underachieving is unacceptable, overachieving is excellence, meeting in the middle is ok but every human strives for excellence unless ofcourse your a degenerate.

theres a lot of inefficiency at City because you have people who run the club willing to throw money . teams hold out for premiums because they know they will get it from City.

Originally Posted by coulsontom

But it ignores deficiencies in city team:

-lack of proper defensive cover when kompany is injured (near-everpresent in 11/12, missed lots last season)
-lack of pace in midfield
-lack of width to stretch deep defence
-lack of competition in GK pos to keep hart on toes
-lack of creativity from deep/overreliance on silva

I prefer to look at the players. Joleon Lescott is not £24m worth of player, so it's ludicrous to spout that because we paid that much therefore we should win the title.

inefficiencies.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

City's biggest problem imo was letting de Jong go, I think he's so underrated

biggest problem?

[colin25]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

City's biggest problem imo was letting de Jong go, I think he's so underrated

Yes, they let him go but didn't replace him with anything better

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Manchester City can save £3.2m by delaying Manuel Pellegrini's appointment

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...delay-1951301?

That might explain delay

[denphone]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

City's biggest problem imo was letting de Jong go, I think he's so underrated

Yes l was amazed when they let him go.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by thenry

biggest problem?

Yep biggest problem imo as I said, he plays such a pivotal role so well but it gets overlooked because he's such a thug.

[thenry]

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Mourinho wants Benfica's Nemanja Matić according to A Bola. Chelsea willing to pay £34m

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=408527

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Inter President Massimo Moratti has denied that Barcelona have approached his club about signing Samir Handanovic this summer.

http://www.football-espana.net/31743...barca%E2%80%99

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BILD say Schalke are favourites to sign out-of-contract Roque Santa Cruz

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/ro...4056.bild.html

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Monaco in discussions to sign Gianelli Imbula from Guingamp for €9m

http://www.mercato365.com/ligue-1/gu...-1033645.shtml

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AC Milan are talking to Julio Cesar

http://www.mercato365.com/etranger/i...-1033577.shtml

please be true, please happen. i dont want him. cheap'ing out backfires!

[denphone]

Owen Coyle will be Roberto Martinez's successor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22902197

Can't say he would have been my choice.

[thenry]

Official: Sir John Chippendale Lindley Keswick appointed new Arsenal chairmen

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...inted-chairman

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Official: Manuel Pellegrini appointed Manchester City manager

http://content.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-...n-City-manager

[denphone]

Well as night turns to day it was inevitable and he better produce a better footballing style then this current lot or else Colin will be blowing out hot air again.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by denphone

Well as night turns to day it was inevitable and he better produce a better footballing style then this current lot or else Colin will be blowing out hot air again.

? again?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by colin25

? again?

Man City's sternest critic .