General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1. - Page 194

**Hugh** · 23-03-2013, 09:37

On your first point - no, you're not.......

Other posters' views may differ, but as someone else said in another thread/context, my view is 'meh!'.

andy_m · 23-03-2013, 10:12

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Originally Posted by mhatter67

Am I the only one on this forum who is not losing sleep that we don't have SKY Atlantic on VM? I find paying a large some of money for SKY sports each month and getting a inferior HD product much more annoying

No. If I was bothered I'd have Sky!

Nelgy · 23-03-2013, 10:44

Totally agree sky Atlantic not fussed would prefer rest of the sports HD channels as I pay for sky HD upgrade on the whole happy now that iVM have acquired ITV HD package

gba93 · 23-03-2013, 11:15

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Originally Posted by mhatter67

Am I the only one on this forum who is not losing sleep that we don't have SKY Atlantic on VM?

Definitely not - I, for one, couldn't give a damn if we get it or not

OLD BOY · 23-03-2013, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Could always just get Sky. Your wait would be over.

Sky Atlantic is no compensation for the benefits of staying with Virgin Media. I am not moving for the sake of one or two programmes I want and can't get on the VM platform.

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Originally Posted by MaverickJesus

My point exactly, its incredibly misleading to march around telling people 'I've seen the prices and they are eyewatering' when its clearly a lie.

I seem to recollect VM saying that Sky expected them to share in the set up costs of the channel, so it would have been expensive.

Qtx · 23-03-2013, 14:28

Are there no channels on VM that Sky customers want in the same way as the popular atlantic?

Is it not possible for a new channel to be created that shows most of the atlantic shows but 6 months behind? I don't know the in and outs of how the media deals happen, so it may sound like a silly question, although just uneducated.

**Hugh** · 23-03-2013, 14:42

"popular atlantic"?

According to BARB, Sky Atlantic is less watched that C5+1, 5USA, Alibi, BBC4, Challenge TV, Fox, Quest, Really (and others) and on a par with 4Music.

Qtx · 23-03-2013, 14:59

This thread alone shows it is popular and desirable.

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Would it not have lower viewing rates simply because only sky customers have Atlantic so less have access to it compared to the other less exclusive channels?

**Hugh** · 23-03-2013, 15:12

So it's popular, but not watched by many people?

Oooookaaaay then....

Sky has 10.3 million TV customers, and series like The Following has 300-400k viewers, Alan Partridge had around 200k viewers - 2 to 3% of the potential audience must be a new definition of 'popular' I hadn't come across before...

passingbat · 23-03-2013, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Qtx

Is it not possible for a new channel to be created that shows most of the atlantic shows but 6 months behind? .

It all depends on the Studio and the deal they have made with the service provider that has first run rights.

What you suggest is a good idea, but I am pretty sure that the deal between Sky and HBO prevents that happening.

Many TV shows have first run and second run rights, where a pay TV channel shows it first and a Freeview TV channel shows it a year or so later. Castle is an example; Alibi show it first and channel 5 show it later. I can't think of any Sky show, that is first shown on a Sky pay TV channel and then shown on a non Sky freeview channel later. So it looks as if Sky buys both first and second run rights to all the shows they buy. Plus, HBO seem to like to restrict how their content is shown, so that isn't likely to help.

So, although your idea is a good one, I just can't see it happening. Sky have allowed some of their Atlantic content to be shown on other channels, namely the first seasons of Game of Thrones and Smash. But there is no guarantee that future seasons will be shown anywhere except Atlantic.

kgollop · 23-03-2013, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh

"popular atlantic"?

According to BARB, Sky Atlantic is less watched that C5+1, 5USA, Alibi, BBC4, Challenge TV, Fox, Quest, Really (and others) and on a par with 4Music.

I guess the question is, what would the viewing figures be if it Atlantic was available on the same platforms as the channels you list? It's not a like for like comparison. The viewing figures are already higher than a number of channels that are available on VM and Sky. I am of course assuming that link covers all platforms and not just Sky, apologies if I am incorrect. I am frequently seeing trailers of programmes that I would like to watch, only to be disappointed to find out they are on Atlantic. Personally to me it would offer more than many of the channels VM currently carry.

**Hugh** · 23-03-2013, 15:37

I understand your point, but as I said, Sky TV has over 10 million customers, and only around 2-3% appear to be viewing these 'popular' programmes.

kgollop · 23-03-2013, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I understand your point, but as I said, Sky TV has over 10 million customers, and only around 2-3% appear to be viewing these 'popular' programmes.

Out of interest, do all 10 million viewers receive Atlantic or is it in Sky's equivalent of the XL pack?

passingbat · 23-03-2013, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh

and only around 2-3% appear to be viewing these 'popular' programmes.

But when has 'popular' been the only criteria to determine the quality of a show? I suspect that many highly acclaimed TV shows wouldn't do too well in the popularity stakes.

**Hugh** · 23-03-2013, 16:26

I would agree with you, but a poster in this thread/page did state that

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Are there no channels on VM that Sky customers want in the same way as the popular atlantic?

That was the point I was trying to address when I stated I am not sure if shows on a channel which garner 2-3% of the potential viewing audience could be classed as "popular"...