04-03-2013, 12:41
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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It's very hard to build a stadium especially if you're already in a lot of debt. How are the expansion plans going?
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04-03-2013, 12:50
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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It's very hard to build a stadium especially if you're already in a lot of debt. How are the expansion plans going?
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Apparently it remains on course but the sooner it happens the better as having a capacity of 44,000 these days is pitiful compared to the giants of Europe..
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-32917317/
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04-03-2013, 15:33
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
West Ham closing on Olympic Stadium deal according to David Gold.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21658539
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04-03-2013, 15:59
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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I'm sorry. I'll refrain from assuming you understand footballing analogies in future.
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And I'll refrain from assuming you know anything about footballing facts in the future to.
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04-03-2013, 16:07
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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Not a bad little earner is it.
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04-03-2013, 16:21
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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#LFC 2012 results have been announced. Please note that they only cover 10 months up to 31 May 2012, as club has changed accounting date.
#LFC 2012 loss before tax £40.5m, an improvement on 2011 loss of £49.3m.
#LFC 2012 revenue £169.0m down from £183.6m, due to 10 months accounting period (impacts commercial, but not match day & media revenue).
Exceptional costs again hit #LFC 2012 accounts: £9.6m termination payments (mainly coaching staff) & £0.8m legal fees (UKSV acquisition). UK branch of Fenway Sports Group (the American owners).
Correcting transfer strategy also hurt #LFC 2012 a/c: loss on player sales £1.7m (2011 £43.3m profit) & write-down of player values £8.9m.
#LFC 2012 staff costs (excluding £9.6m exceptional charges) £109.2m for 10 months, which implies annual wage bill of around £131m.
Did wages include payoffs to overpaid players let go? Or were they separate?
Total staff costs £119m, but that included the £10m termination payments made to departing staff, so underlying wage bill £109m.
#LFC 2012 net debt up from £65.4m to £87.2m: £69.9m to bank & £22.2m to UKSV less £4.9m cash. In Aug UKSV put in £46.8m reducing bank debt.
#LFC 2012 revenue £169.0m (2011 £183.6m): match day £42.3m (2011 £40.9m), media £62.8m (2011 £65.3m), commercial £63.9m (2011 £77.4m).
Ignoring timing adjs, main moves in #LFC results: £45m fall in profit on player sales, £49m lower exceptional costs, £9m player write-downs.
What was players amortization cost for the whole period - only 9M?
Player amortisation £33.8m (2011 £36.3m). On top of that player write-downs (impairment) £8.9m.
This doesn't include the warrior deal or the chevrolet deals does it? Will they reduce the debt?
No, both deals only start from 2012-13 season. They will help, as will new Premier League TV deal.
Challenges are stadium expansion, European qualification (pref CL) and controlling wage bill. Oh, and stop sacking people!
re LFC, is it true to say that a lot of the debt is owed to the owners rather than external debt?
Not at time of accounts, but since then (Aug 12) owners have replaced much of bank debt with owner debt.
Not detailed in LFC accounts, but Swansea's accounts included £5m received as compensation, presumably for BR.
Net debt of £87.2m: £69.9m to bank & £22.2m to owners less £4.9m cash. In August owners put in £46.8m reducing bank debt.
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Napoli join Sanchez queue
http://www.football-italia.net/31456...-sanchez-queue
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05-03-2013, 13:37
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
Manchester United signs sponsorship deal with Danish bank
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....r-year-1720095
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Arsenal plan £8m summer move for Swansea captain Ashley Williams
• Arsène Wenger wants Wales skipper to shore up defence
• Competition for 28-year-old likely to come from Liverpool
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ity?CMP=twt_gu
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Inter have opted to fine Antonio Cassano €40,000 after his training ground altercation with boss Andrea Stramaccioni.
http://www.football-italia.net/31496...%AC40000-inter
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05-03-2013, 13:38
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
£8 million doesn't seem that out of wack to me. Between £8 million to £12 million is alright.
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05-03-2013, 13:39
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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05-03-2013, 13:44
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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And I'll refrain from assuming you know anything about footballing facts in the future to.
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This coming from someone who claims Man United are on a West Ham-style decline 
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Originally Posted by thenry
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Why would he want to move to lesser clubs?
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05-03-2013, 13:45
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
Ha, can't see Ashley Williams agent's fax machine being too busy in the summer. No need to order a new toner lad.
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05-03-2013, 13:48
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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l would say he odds on to go to Liverpool according to sources close to the player.
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05-03-2013, 13:54
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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£8 million doesn't seem that out of wack to me. Between £8 million to £12 million is alright.
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Swansea will no doubt ask for more. inflation.
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Why would he want to move to lesser clubs?
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you need to see a doctor.
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Denver sports magnate Stan Kroenke’s Kroenke Sports & Entertainment has made a competing offer for the Outdoor Channel, a deal which seems to trump an earlier agreement between the hunting and fishing network and Sportsman Channel parent InterMedia Holdings.
http://www.multichannel.com/networks...outdoor/142031
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05-03-2013, 14:01
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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It was a great result for us, it proves once again that Arsenal are a pathetic picture of what they used to be, they tried there offside trap twice and it didn't work and we scored two fantastic goals.
Wenger needs to bring in new faces at The Emirates, Walcott is not the player everyone thinks he is, Bale is out of this world, l just hope and pray that we will qualify for the CL, and that Levy digs into his pocket and signs Bale on a long term contract worth a lot of money.
Bale is a great player and l personally don't think he will go abroad, he prefers his beloved Wales too much.
Arsenal WE are now Londons top team.
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