Welfare or Soldiers?

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

P.s oh and dragging welfare into this when there is so much wastage within the M.O.D is pathetic by phillip hammond sadly i am not surprised by this.

It is fair to "drag" welfare in to this, don't forget we have people who do nothing but smoke weed daily and claim benefits. So we need to find a away of sniffing out such pathetic losers and kicking them off benefits. I'm sure that's something you would agree with.

If we get rid of some of the soldiers then they might well need to go onto welfare!

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Originally Posted by Bogof

It is fair to "drag" welfare in to this, don't forget we have people who do nothing but smoke weed daily and claim benefits. So we need to find a away of sniffing out such pathetic losers and kicking them off benefits. I'm sure that's something you would agree with.

Are you being sarcastic?

Originally Posted by Damien

If we get rid of some of the soldiers then they might well need to go onto welfare!

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Are you being sarcastic?

No I'm being serious, unless you think paying perfectly healthy people benefits to sit at home and smoke weed is acceptable?

This is the point I'm trying to make, if you're a pathetic sad loser who is scared of work but you know you're able to work then I really hope you lose all you benefits. The reason it ****es me off is genuine cases get less help, services get cut and people suffer. An its down to liars, frauds and pathetic individuals.

I think genuine cases should get MORE help financially, as a tax payer I'm happy to pay to ensure genuine cases get a good standard of living, a car, a holiday. I also don't think they should be forced to live on vile council estates and face a retirement of a horrific lack of income an unaffordable gas/electric bills.

So if only people would understand ATOS is doing good, yes they get it wrong sometimes but then so does the NHS, The police, The firebrigade, The legal system, The education system.

But overall they are reducing fraud, reducing incorrect benefit payments and trust me people are getting MORE money and help due to ATOS.

[slowcoach]

Waldo is having a really bad day today.

Bogof there is this thing called context and in the context of defence spending with so much waste within the M.O.D it was pathetic to say soldiers or welfare. Also while I'm happy you've got a job with atos there is no need to constantly praise them everytime you post.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

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The government have got to stop feeding other countries with our Taxes.

I agree with you.

[snowey]

Originally Posted by Ken W

I agree with you.

And I second that

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The government have got to stop feeding other countries with our Taxes.

Never going to happen because the tree hugging want us to do it. They would sooner waste money on other countries than give it to our own people.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Bogof there is this thing called context and in the context of defence spending with so much waste within the M.O.D it was pathetic to say soldiers or welfare. Also while I'm happy you've got a job with atos there is no need to constantly praise them everytime you post.

Well as you've admitted you don't pay tax but do take from the system your opinion really doesn't matter, it's not your taxes that you have worked a 40 hour week to have large portion of your wages deducted for tax.

My opinion is valid and tax payers should have a say, but you saying where tax should go is like me telling my neighbour how to spend the wages he has earned.

[danielf]

I wonder what's next. Withdrawal of voting rights for people on benefits?

Originally Posted by danielf

I wonder what's next. Withdrawal of voting rights for people on benefits?

All I'm saying is if you don't pay tax then you won't have same feelings about how tax is spent. Hence none tax payers opinion are not really that important.

It us the tax payers, its OUR money which we pay into a system that should more than anything benefit us the tax payer.

Originally Posted by Bogof

All I'm saying is if you don't pay tax then you won't have same feelings about how tax is spent. Hence none tax payers opinion are not really that important.

It us the tax payers, its OUR money which we pay into a system that should more than anything benefit us the tax payer.

That's bollocks ,there are plenty of hard wording people who fall below the tax threshold ,are you saying they don't have a say in how the taxes are spent .We elect a government to decide how to spend taxes and society as a whole decides who sits in that government .By your standard those who pay more tax should have the most say with those who pay having none.

Originally Posted by martyh

That's bollocks ,there are plenty of hard wording people who fall below the tax threshold ,are you saying they don't have a say in how the taxes are spent .We elect a government to decide how to spend taxes and society as a whole decides who sits in that government .By your standard those who pay more tax should have the most say with those who pay having none.

No! Those are your words,

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Bogof

All I'm saying is if you don't pay tax then you won't have same feelings about how tax is spent. Hence none tax payers opinion are not really that important.

It us the tax payers, its OUR money which we pay into a system that should more than anything benefit us the tax payer.

Right. So presumably then, people who pay more tax have more right to an opinion as well. Or is that too much bollocks?

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Originally Posted by Bogof

No! Those are your words,

It's the logical conclusion. If you think it's nonsense then perhaps that should tell you something about the premise.

Originally Posted by danielf

Right. So presumably then, people who pay more tax have more right to an opinion as well. Or is that too much bollocks?

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If thats your opinion that's fine, but I disagree strongly.