US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media

[gba93]

Originally Posted by Bogof

I was surprised to see Liberty-cable only have 25 million customers over 14 countries with 50 million homes passed, well I guess it's 62 million million homes passed now they own Virginmedia. But yet Sky have 12 million customers in 1 country.

... and your point is?

[jamiefrost]

Originally Posted by Bogof

I was surprised to see Liberty-cable only have 25 million customers over 14 countries with 50 million homes passed, well I guess it's 62 million million homes passed now they own Virginmedia. But yet Sky have 12 million customers in 1 country.

So what you are saying is that both companies have a hit rate of around 50% of possible customers. The other thing to consider is that it can only make Sky's figures worse if Virgin extended to cover all of the UK.

Originally Posted by gba93

... and your point is?

No point just trying cast Virgin Media in a bad light again.

J

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Bogof

I was surprised to see Liberty-cable only have 25 million customers over 14 countries with 50 million homes passed, well I guess it's 62 million million homes passed now they own Virginmedia. But yet Sky have 12 million customers in 1 country.

What is your point here as all l see here is another totally useless Sky bias posting.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by denphone

What is your point here as all l see here is another totally useless Sky bias posting.

I think he is a previous poster called TV, look at TV's posts and then look at Bogof's posts, there exactly the same.

[gba93]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I think he is a previous poster called TV, look at TV's posts and then look at Bogof's posts, there exactly the same.

Certainly looks like it

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by gba93

Certainly looks like it

If i am proved wrong at a later date i will apologise but at the moment his posts read nearly word for word of those of a previous poster called TV.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Bogof

I was surprised to see Liberty-cable only have 25 million customers over 14 countries with 50 million homes passed, well I guess it's 62 million million homes passed now they own Virginmedia. But yet Sky have 12 million customers in 1 country.

Don't worry your pretty little head about it.

Originally Posted by Sirius

If i am proved wrong at a later date i will apologise but at the moment his posts read nearly word for word of those of a previous poster called TV.

You're wrong, apology accepted.

Originally Posted by jamiefrost

So what you are saying is that both companies have a hit rate of around 50% of possible customers. The other thing to consider is that it can only make Sky's figures worse if Virgin extended to cover all of the UK.



No point just trying cast Virgin Media in a bad light again.

J

This has been said a number of times. Sky could supply services to 25 million homes and have over about 10.5 million customers. Vm could supply services to 12 million homes and have about 4.8 million customers. The big difference is in those 12 million homes VM compete with Sky, BT and every other tom dick and harry, whreas Sky do not have VM as a competitor in 13 million homes that they could potentiallly serve.

Looking at it like that you can see what a great job VM have done. I appreciate that they have an off net product but they simply do not push this - have you ever seen an advert?

So Bogof post is complete garbage actually all of his posts are!

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Bogof

You're wrong, apology accepted.

I have not given you one.

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Originally Posted by Top banana

So Bogof post is complete garbage actually all of his posts are!

There exactly the same has his previous posts

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Originally Posted by Bogof

You're wrong, apology accepted.

I think you need to learn to read. I said

Originally Posted by Sirius

If i am proved wrong at a later date i will apologise

At the moment there is no proof i am wrong.

[batchain]

Originally Posted by Bogof

I was surprised to see Liberty-cable only have 25 million customers over 14 countries with 50 million homes passed,

20 Million customers, 34 million homes passed.

well I guess it's 62 million million homes passed now they own Virginmedia.

ONCE they own Virgin Media it will be 25 million customers, 47 million homes passed

But yet Sky have 12 million customers in 1 country.

Sky have 10.7m customers, available to 28m homes in 2 countries

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Top banana

This has been said a number of times. Sky could supply services to 25 million homes and have over about 10.5 million customers. Vm could supply services to 12 million homes and have about 4.8 million customers. The big difference is in those 12 million homes VM compete with Sky, BT and every other tom dick and harry, whreas Sky do not have VM as a competitor in 13 million homes that they could potentiallly serve.

Looking at it like that you can see what a great job VM have done. I appreciate that they have an off net product but they simply do not push this - have you ever seen an advert?

So Bogof post is complete garbage actually all of his posts are!

Why wouldn't they do well for many years they've had BB speeds Sky could only dream about , going back a couple of years they'd people on speeds such as 10mb , 20mb and 50mb when the average ADSL user was probably managing around 4-5mb , the next few years will be interesting with Sky now being able to deliver Unlimited Fibre to a larger footprint that's expanding day by day and BT Vision set to shake its TV service up and offer trully unlimited Fibre BB.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Why wouldn't they do well for many years they've had BB speeds Sky could only dream about , going back a couple of years they'd people on speeds such as 10mb , 20mb and 50mb when the average ADSL user was probably managing around 4-5mb , the next few years will be interesting with Sky now being able to deliver Unlimited Fibre to a larger footprint that's expanding day by day and BT Vision set to shake its TV service up and offer trully unlimited Fibre BB.

Agree with you, the post was in response to Bogofs post earlier

Originally Posted by Top banana

This has been said a number of times. Sky could supply services to 25 million homes and have over about 10.5 million customers. Vm could supply services to 12 million homes and have about 4.8 million customers. The big difference is in those 12 million homes VM compete with Sky, BT and every other tom dick and harry, whreas Sky do not have VM as a competitor in 13 million homes that they could potentiallly serve.

Looking at it like that you can see what a great job VM have done. I appreciate that they have an off net product but they simply do not push this - have you ever seen an advert?

So Bogof post is complete garbage actually all of his posts are!

Considering Sky were trying to compete with Virginmedias 50mb offering when all sky could offer was maybe 5Mb. Now Sky have a real chance of matching and beating Virginmedias speeds it will be interesting to see how the next year pans out. Virginmedia also had ondemand, iplayer 3 tuners etc etc. So sky weren't doing to badly. Also the a few million households that can't have sky for various reasons.

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Bogof

Considering Sky were trying to compete with Virginmedias 50mb offering when all sky could offer was maybe 5Mb.

That is the difference now. VM got their foot in customers doors when there were no other fibre broadband options. Now that has changed with many providers able to offer fibre. Most of the alternative fibre providers sell broadband connections that have almost double the upload speed of virgins top product and with cloud based consumerism getting larger, upload speeds are going to be very important.

So customer numbers from the past may have no bearing on the future. All the data pointed towards virgin being the loser in the next few years, so Liberty Global are either brave or stupid