Muslim paedo escapes jail saying he did not know 13 was underage
08-02-2013, 18:03
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
I've just noticed that the word 'Muslim' has been removed from the thread title ,i would ask why
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08-02-2013, 18:09
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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I've just noticed that the word 'Muslim' has been removed from the thread title ,i would ask why
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History is being rewritten in front of our eyes and I bet its not the answer you were looking for 
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08-02-2013, 18:12
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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I've just noticed that the word 'Muslim' has been removed from the thread title ,i would ask why
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Because him being a Muslim and his defence being that of a Muslim has nothing at all to do with how or why he appeared in court and his Muslim school teachings were a factor in his crime.
That's why 
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08-02-2013, 18:14
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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No he simply isn't right about that. Muslims do not want to rule the world 'when we're all dead'. Also martyh, you rightly aren't happy if people opposed to Gay marriage are labelled bigots but don't seem too concerned with labelling Muslims, some 1.6 billion people, with the same brush.
This guy is a Muslim, he may well have used his alleged faith in this case, that doesn't reflect on anyone but himself. He is no more representative of Muslims than a random Christian is of Christianity or a random white guy, let's say a racist one, represents white people.
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That is naive to say the least .This guy got his attitude towards women from school and his home life The judge said ‘He’s had an unusual education, certainly in terms of the sexual education provided. Comparing women to lollipops is a very curious way of teaching young men about sex.’.
so from that it is plain as day that Muslim faith schools and muslim home life are teaching that women are second class citizens to be used as tools ,not all but enough to be very concerned about .
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08-02-2013, 18:14
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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I put my hands up I am a bigot I do have an issue with Muslims it is a trust issue I have none for them. Does that make me racist? course it does not. I can live with my bigotry and my mind will not change
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Good for you, stick with your convictions 
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08-02-2013, 18:14
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
he's faked and scapegoat the religion.
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08-02-2013, 18:15
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
Well he probably wasn't Muslim anyway...
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08-02-2013, 18:18
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Well he probably wasn't Muslim anyway...
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They should ban him from the school then. I don't see why they should teach him to disrespect women they way they do if he's not even a real Muslim.
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08-02-2013, 18:23
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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he's faked and scapegoat the religion.
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well he hasn't because he did go to a Muslim faith school ,and his home life encouraged that way of thinking because that's what his parents believe .That was mentioned in the trial .So i would say his perception of women is 100% down to his strict Muslim up bringing .
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08-02-2013, 18:27
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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well he hasn't because he did go to a Muslim faith school ,and his home life encouraged that way of thinking because that's what his parents believe .That was mentioned in the trial .So i would say his perception of women is 100% down to his strict Muslim up bringing .
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I get that. What I'm saying is this could have all been stopped by the fact he must have been told of marriage before sex. Its as if all this has been him picking out what he wants and discarded the rest.
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08-02-2013, 18:28
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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That is naive to say the least .This guy got his attitude towards women from school and his home life The judge said ‘He’s had an unusual education, certainly in terms of the sexual education provided. Comparing women to lollipops is a very curious way of teaching young men about sex.’.
so from that it is plain as day that Muslim faith schools and muslim home life are teaching that women are second class citizens to be used as tools ,not all but enough to be very concerned about .
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I agree he got it from his home life and I don't like the treatment of woman in the Muslim faith. That said Christianity isn't great when it comes to woman's rights either. Yet these are often not the only influences on a person's character. How the religion is taught, the child's upbringing, and society as a whole can also shape a child.
This guy's upbringing is not indicative of all Muslims. It may highlight a problem in the culture of young Asian men and and woman but if we are going to examine that we must do so in way that doesn't make sweeping generalisations of an entire faith or race.
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08-02-2013, 18:35
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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I agree he got it from his home life and I don't like the treatment of woman in the Muslim faith. That said Christianity isn't great when it comes to woman's rights either. Yet these are often not the only influences on a person's character. How the religion is taught, the child's upbringing, and society as a whole can also shape a child.
This guy's upbringing is not indicative of all Muslims. It may highlight a problem in the culture of young Asian men and and woman but if we are going to examine that we must do so in way that doesn't make sweeping generalisations of an entire faith or race.
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The Islamic fundamentalists want to kill all Christians they do differentiate
This is about a guy who had sex with an underage girl and used a Islamic upbringing in his defence this is incontrovertible
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08-02-2013, 18:39
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
yeah but equally its contradictory. Is anyone going to actually believe a person brought up to follow strict religious rules have missed out the obvious? I mean marriage before sex is massive in the faith.
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08-02-2013, 18:39
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Well he probably wasn't Muslim anyway...
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Well he's not now according to the thread amendment 
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08-02-2013, 18:40
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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I get that. What I'm saying is this could have all been stopped by the fact he must have been told of marriage before sex. Its as if all this has been him picking out what he wants and discarded the rest.
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That was the judges view ,he said that the Islam Faith (if taught correctly)does teach that so he didn't(the judge) buy into the idea that Adil didn't know it was wrong in his faith if not the law .I agree that Adil is cherry picking aspects of his faith but that does not negate the fact that the Islam faith as a whole ,and for that matter most faiths i know of,teach that women are second class people .It is those teachings that allow people like Adil to do what they do because "my faith says i can" .So i stand by my conviction that there is a very real problem with most Muslims in this country and the way that they interpret Islam
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