General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.

[MalteseFalcon]

UPC is a subsidiary company of Liberty Global apparently. Just been trying to find out info on them. Want to know just who is going to start screwing us customers over.

Originally Posted by Chad

Does anyone know if Liberty Global own UPC in Ireland, and UPC all accross Europe?

Yup, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Broadband

I'm guessing TiVo and the licensing fees that come with it will be scrapped for their box.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

Yup, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Broadband

I'm guessing TiVo and the fees that come with it will be scrapped for their box.

What box / software do UPC use? Have they rolled out their current box accross the rest of their European outfit? Do Irish UPC customers and Dutch UPC customers have the same PVR, EPG and software? If so, doesn't look good unless they plan to roll the Virgin TiVo box out accross Europe.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

Yup, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Broadband

I'm guessing TiVo and the licensing fees that come with it will be scrapped for their box.

If that happens Tivo will hate this country after what happened with Sky and there will be a lot of unhappy devotees .

[Chad]

Originally Posted by RB2004

These specs alone are tempting over TiVo box,


"The Horizon media gateway has six tuners and can record up to four channels simultaneously. There is a three-hour review buffer that runs across recently viewed channels, from which users can also set recordings. The gateway box comes with a gigabyte of memory and a 500 gigabyte hard disk."

So no way they will keep TiVo,

That box is already rolled out in iteland and europe.

"It will be rolled out in Switzerland, Germany and Ireland over the next 3-6 months. International cable company Liberty Global has been working with a number of partners on the ambitious project, which promises to transform the cable television experience for its customers, allowing them to view media across television, computer, tablet and smartphone screens."

That was October 2012.


So looks like end of TiVo, shame really after all the hype VM put into TiVo and marketing it etc

Looks grim for TiVo. The above however doesn't look too bad.

Does anyone have more info on Horizon they can share?

http://www.lgi.com/horizon.html

Looks like Windows Media Center and XBMC which is quite nice.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

http://www.lgi.com/horizon.html

Looks like Windows Media Center and XBMC which is quite nice.

Thanks for the link.

Found plenty of videos on Youtube, looks great. Unfortunately the videos are pretty much all in Dutch so I have no idea what is going on

[Horizon]

Horizon is basically a competitior to tivo, but new, with a lot more bugs in it! (at the moment)

[alwaysabear]

I am impressed , I can also only find dutch video on youtube.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

http://www.lgi.com/horizon.html

Looks like Windows Media Center and XBMC which is quite nice.

There is a reason for that, one of the main companies behind Horizon is NDS, Rupert Murdoch's old encrytion company, as was. So looks more similar to Sky that tivo.

[howardmicks]

Personally hope they stick with TiVo here in the uk I for one certainly not gona be happy if a new box is required and I suspect others will feel the same

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Will channel provider contracts after be renewed ?????

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Will channel provider contracts after be renewed ?????

They didn't for Virgin/NTL:Telewest so I'd assume no.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Personally hope they stick with TiVo here in the uk I for one certainly not gona be happy if a new box is required and I suspect others will feel the same

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Will channel provider contracts after be renewed ?????

http://blogs.wsj.com/overheard/2013/02/05/tivo-threat-on-the-horizon/

This seems to suggest TiVo will remain in place for 4 years. However why would a new company continue to rollout TiVo boxes for the next 4 years if at the end they will need to replace them all with their own PVR's. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Liberty Global agreeing terms with TiVo to bring the current deal to a swift and amicable end. It would probably work out cheaper for Liberty Global, in the long temr, to end the deal with TiVo ASAP.

[Horizon]

...that's how I see it too. But, if could go the other way. Liberty buys tivo.

TiVo are bleeding money, they've survived off lawsuits in the last few years, no-one in their right mind would buy them.