Superhub : What router do I get for a Superhub in modem mode?

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

I've got the Asus RT-N56U. A smashing bit of kit.

Cheers

Grim

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

"Full bars" unfortunately doesn't mean anything without specifying which phone, full bars on one phone could just as well equal 1 bar on another.

This is true, but it does show that the wireless performance is better than the DIR-615 at least. Plus, it's not like you know the layout or the shape of my house, either.

For what it's worth, it's a Galaxy Nexus.

[qasdfdsaq]

Well I suppose a direct comparison on the same phone helps, what did you have before? Incidentally I've recently found some inconsistencies between DIR-615's, with up to +/- 15dB differences between two otherwise identical routers, though I suppose leaving one out on the roof for 14 months without climate control didn't help...

I'm still quite intrigued by the these reports of "much better" wireless signal though, both the DIR-615 and the VM Superhub theoretically already transmit at the maximum legal limit, so either they're doing it really badly, or the "better signal" router is breaking the law. The latter probably wouldn't get certified for sale, so I'm really curious about what causes the former. FWIW both routers' radiation pattern is essentially (or can easily be made to be) isotropic in all directions so there shouldn't even be the possibility of "stronger signal" in one direction.

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Well I suppose a direct comparison on the same phone helps, what did you have before? Incidentally I've recently found some inconsistencies between DIR-615's, with up to +/- 15dB differences between two otherwise identical routers, though I suppose leaving one out on the roof for 14 months without climate control didn't help...

I'm still quite intrigued by the these reports of "much better" wireless signal though, both the DIR-615 and the VM Superhub theoretically already transmit at the maximum legal limit, so either they're doing it really badly, or the "better signal" router is breaking the law. The latter probably wouldn't get certified for sale, so I'm really curious about what causes the former. FWIW both routers' radiation pattern is essentially (or can easily be made to be) isotropic in all directions so there shouldn't even be the possibility of "stronger signal" in one direction.

Well I may be wrong here, but for a start the Asus router has 3 external antennae whereas the D-link only has 2 and the SHUB has none. I'm also not sure what the configuration for each is, but the Asus has what I believe is the maximum number of arrays (3x3?) whereas the D-link does not. Not sure about the superhub, I would be surprised if it did as well. That doesn't really explain the range, though, so I'll stick with it being the antennae.

[qasdfdsaq]

The legal transmit power takes into account all the characteristics of the antennae as well, and counts the amount of signal coming out of the unit and over the air - so a better antenna means the radio chip has to actually reduce its output power so the effective total remains the same.

The DIR-615 has two antenna, and each one on its own is capable of hitting the regulatory limit, it has to halve its power when using both simultaneously, same applies to the Superhub. There is no "maximum" number of antenna but the maximum simultaneous streams in 802.11n is 4, but you could theoretically run 32 antennas if you felt like it (actually some people do).

More/better antennas can only increase signal in certain directions while making it worse in others, and while "more antennas is better" that tends to be because of better reliability and speed rather than more signal.

[Kushan]

Whelp. Then I've got nothing.

It certainly is no placebo effect.

[resander]

I am itching to try the Tenda N60 (the spec really seems good), but I am worried about it overheating (as reported on newegg.com) and catch fire. I have seen two AVRs (automatic voltage regulators) and a power supply pop&fizzle with sparks and smoke at work (overseas), fortunately during daytime so we could deal with it. I may get the Tenda though and use it outside sleeping hours.

The Belkin router did not get hot, nor did the Superhub when left on 24 hours a day. What about the higher-end Linksys and ASUS routers, do they stay cool 24/7?

Ken

[thenry]

Just get the Asus RT-N66U mate and be done with it. That should do you unless your looking to wait for the nee AC standard be non draft.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by resander

I am itching to try the Tenda N60 (the spec really seems good), but I am worried about it overheating (as reported on newegg.com) and catch fire. I have seen two AVRs (automatic voltage regulators) and a power supply pop&fizzle with sparks and smoke at work (overseas), fortunately during daytime so we could deal with it. I may get the Tenda though and use it outside sleeping hours.

That's why we have warranties and consumer protection laws

[Skie]

They are all giving you cancer and brain tumours while you sleep anyway

[qasdfdsaq]

Dunno about you but I don't tend to sleep with my head on top of my router... Though the cat sometimes does

[Sephiroth]

Does the cat fart, Qasi?

[adduxi]

Originally Posted by Skie

They are all giving you cancer and brain tumours while you sleep anyway

Ah, but my wireless is off when I'm sleeping .....

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Does the cat fart, Qasi?

When I was working at Virgin, there was a story that went around whereby one of our operators blamed wireless interference on the customer's dog - saying that his wagging tail was disrupting the airwaves.

I'd like to say that it was just a rumour and probably never happened, but having met some of the people that used to work there....

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Kushan

When I was working at Virgin, there was a story that went around whereby one of our operators blamed wireless interference on the customer's dog - saying that his wagging tail was disrupting the airwaves.

I'd like to say that it was just a rumour and probably never happened, but having met some of the people that used to work there....

Did the dog fart. Kshan?

[Kushan]

Quite possibly! If it didn't, it might have exploded by now.