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		|  02-01-2013, 11:20 | #1606 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Some might call it value but HD now should be seen as standard and not as some extra add on charge.  |  I agree,HD should now be the norm not a premium. Sky in particular have made alot of money already out of charging an aditional fee to watch HD channels. And lets not forget it wasn`t that long ago they charged it per box not per subscription! At the end of the day though they will keep charging it for as long as people(like me)keep on paying it. It would be nice if sky dropped the charge altogether or at least reduced it say by half.
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		|  02-01-2013, 21:26 | #1607 |  
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					Originally Posted by spiderplant  Far from it.  See table 2.17 here .
 
Also, only 59% of HD-ready TV owners have an HD source available. 
(Source: table 86 here ) |  Thanks for the link, table 2.17 is very interesting but unless I'm missing something obvious, the reason 60% of people upgrade is because they want the latest technology. HD is the latest in TV tech in my eyes. 
 
As for 59% of people not having a HD source available. That figure does seem really high and I guess it's due to uneducated consumers and over eagar salesmen. I hear the phrase "this TV will make everything you watch HD" quite a lot in Currys etc. 
 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  But the thing is MM nearly everything is done in HD now so why should people have to pay a extra premium to get access to it. |  Do you still complain about paying a £100 per year premium to watch colour TV?
 
You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder. 
It costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence.
 
Taken from: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/ |  
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		|  02-01-2013, 21:30 | #1608 |  
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					Originally Posted by Doz007  Thanks for the link, table 2.17 is very interesting but unless I'm missing something obvious, the reason 60% of people upgrade is because they want the latest technology. HD is the latest in TV tech in my eyes.  
As for 59% of people not having a HD source available. That figure does seem really high and I guess it's due to uneducated consumers and over eagar salesmen. I hear the phrase "this TV will make everything you watch HD" quite a lot in Currys etc. 
 
Do you still complain about paying a £100 per year premium to watch colour TV?
 
You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder. 
It costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence.
 
Taken from: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/ |  Indeed in my opinion the TV Licence should have been abolished a long time ago and the BBC should have to survive in the commercial world just like anybody else.
		 
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		|  02-01-2013, 21:33 | #1609 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Indeed in my opinion the TV Licence should have been abolished a long time ago and the BBC should have to survive in the commercial world just like anybody else. |  Will never happen thou.  BBC will never have ads and unless the government pay them then we are stuck with the TV Licence sadly
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		|  02-01-2013, 21:34 | #1610 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Indeed in my opinion the TV Licence should have been abolished a long time ago and the BBC should have to survive in the commercial world just like anybody else. |  Whilst I agree with you Den, that's another debate entirely.    
My point was the £100 per year premium for watching TV in colour. Colour is the 100% industry standard today but yet still demands a premium - why do you think HD shouldn't do the same?
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		|  02-01-2013, 21:40 | #1611 |  
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					Originally Posted by Doz007  Whilst I agree with you Den, that's another debate entirely.    
My point was the £100 per year premium for watching TV in colour. Colour is the 100% industry standard today but yet still demands a premium - why do you think HD shouldn't do the same? |  good point.  Can't remember last time i saw a black and white tv...at least one built for that purpose
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		|  02-01-2013, 23:39 | #1612 |  
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			well that's me 100% sky ,dumped BT i have just upgraded my package toSky talk =free+ 14.50 line rental
 entertainment extra 26.50
 Sky BB unlimited (only get 4-6mg)
 one multiroom box £10 per month
 
 cost of package 58.50+vat
 
 saving me about 30-40 £'s per month and i'm getting exactly the same BB as i got from BT
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		|  03-01-2013, 11:08 | #1613 |  
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			Channel 376 has been renamed to Chart Show Dance.  EPG shows it CS Dance.  The channel was named Dance Nation
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:19 | #1614 |  
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					Originally Posted by martyh  well that's me 100% sky ,dumped BT i have just upgraded my package toSky talk =free+ 14.50 line rental
 entertainment extra 26.50
 Sky BB unlimited (only get 4-6mg)
 one multiroom box £10 per month
 
 cost of package 58.50+vat
 
 saving me about 30-40 £'s per month and i'm getting exactly the same BB as i got from BT
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:26 | #1615 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick Fisher  You have gone the same way as me    with the only difference being skyfibre unlimited is available here.
  
Once it becomes available in your area and you upgrade, you won't know yourself.   |  I thought it was ridiculous waiting for BT to upgrade my area .It has been put back 3 times so i thought if the best i can get is 4-5 meg then i will not continue paying BT's premium price (£26p/m i think it was)when i can get the same connection speed from sky for £7.50 . 
BT tried to match the deal for £40 p/m using their tv service which requires at least 2meg of the connection speed to work so playing games for the lads will be a no no .Seems pointless even offering it in low speed areas
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:31 | #1616 |  
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					Originally Posted by martyh  I thought it was ridiculous waiting for BT to upgrade my area .It has been put back 3 times so i thought if the best i can get is 4-5 meg then i will not continue paying BT's premium price (£26p/m i think it was)when i can get the same connection speed from sky for £7.50 .BT tried to match the deal for £40 p/m using their tv service which requires at least 2meg of the connection speed to work so playing games for the lads will be a no no .Seems pointless even offering it in low speed areas
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:37 | #1617 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick Fisher  I think BT suck, I want nothing to do with them. |  My only gripe now is that i still have pay BT for the line rental    |  
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:39 | #1618 |  
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					Originally Posted by martyh  My only gripe now is that i still have pay BT for the line rental   |  Why , Sky have their own line rental , is your BB on Sky Connect or on Sky LLU network ?
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:40 | #1619 |  
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					Originally Posted by muppetman11  Why , Sky have their own line rental. |  I know but doesn't that go to BT because bt own the lines ?
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		|  03-01-2013, 16:46 | #1620 |  
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					Originally Posted by martyh  I know but doesn't that go to BT because bt own the lines ? |  I have Sky line rental and Sky BB , if I had a line fault Sky deal with me over the phone and send out an Openreach (Part of BT) engineer to check it out.
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