Doesn't go far enough

[Arthurgray50@blu]

www.skynews.co.uk/Extra funding.
Funding To Tackle Youth Violence

The news that the government will give extra funding to fight Youth Violence and knife crime, does not go far enough.

What the government has to do is find extra funding to put more police officers on the street, to curb this youth problem, they need something to do.

Put extra funding into finding ways of getting the youths off the streets, ie jobs, opening community centres, which have been closed
In various parts of this country you have youths roaming the streets causing anti social behaviour as they have nothing to do but cause trouble.

Unemployment is bad all over the UK, that money can go into getting business up and running that can take youths off the streets.

Charities will enjoy this input of cash, but again the government must do more to curb this problem. We have a community Centre near us that has been closed for the past five years due to lack of funding, by day it is used as a furniture shop.

[peanut]

http://news.sky.com/story/1030482/kn...youth-violence

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

www.skynews.co.uk/Extra funding.
Funding To Tackle Youth Violence

The news that the government will give extra funding to fight Youth Violence and knife crime, does not go far enough.

What the government has to do is find extra funding to put more police officers on the street, to curb this youth problem, they need something to do.

Put extra funding into finding ways of getting the youths off the streets, ie jobs, opening community centres, which have been closed
In various parts of this country you have youths roaming the streets causing anti social behaviour as they have nothing to do but cause trouble.

Unemployment is bad all over the UK, that money can go into getting business up and running that can take youths off the streets.

Charities will enjoy this input of cash, but again the government must do more to curb this problem. We have a community Centre near us that has been closed for the past five years due to lack of funding, by day it is used as a furniture shop.

How far does the government go Arthur ? do they just keep pumping money into schemes absolving parents and the kids of their own responsibility ?.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

What the government have to do is to find funding to get youths and young adults off our streets.

NOT every young kid is a thug, but tell me how many youths re-offend as there is nothing to do, but cause trouble, you only have to watch these Tv shows about street crime, and the majority are of young adults on the streets after 10/11 pm at night.

We have to have a government that can find the money that can gets this young adults back into jobs, but there isn't anything out there for them to do this.

Its ok for the government to find the funds, but they have to do more to get people out there that will make sure that young adults have something to do.

I worked in Feltham Remand Centre, and l cannot believe the amount of kids that re-offend, yes they get training inside, but then its left up to an overstretched probation service to make sure they stay out of trouble.

I know of young adults that have been in an out of YOI for most of the young lifes, Its these youths that need help, and this is where you need the funding to find work for them, if you look at it to keep a young adult in prison it is approx £1.500 If you took this on the outside, it would be half that amount to put him him a job and save the tas payer money.

As for the parent situation, yes it is up to the parent to guide there son or daughter, but if they are punished by the parent, then you get into the 'don't hit kids etc brigade'.

We need more police officers on the streets, and this can only be done by putting the funding there.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What the government have to do is to find funding to get youths and young adults off our streets.

NOT every young kid is a thug, but tell me how many youths re-offend as there is nothing to do, but cause trouble, you only have to watch these Tv shows about street crime, and the majority are of young adults on the streets after 10/11 pm at night.

We have to have a government that can find the money that can gets this young adults back into jobs, but there isn't anything out there for them to do this.

Its ok for the government to find the funds, but they have to do more to get people out there that will make sure that young adults have something to do.

I worked in Feltham Remand Centre, and l cannot believe the amount of kids that re-offend, yes they get training inside, but then its left up to an overstretched probation service to make sure they stay out of trouble.

I know of young adults that have been in an out of YOI for most of the young lifes, Its these youths that need help, and this is where you need the funding to find work for them, if you look at it to keep a young adult in prison it is approx £1.500 If you took this on the outside, it would be half that amount to put him him a job and save the tas payer money.

As for the parent situation, yes it is up to the parent to guide there son or daughter, but if they are punished by the parent, then you get into the 'don't hit kids etc brigade'.

We need more police officers on the streets, and this can only be done by putting the funding there.

With respect arthur that is all a load of rollocks ,if people offend that is their fault if they re-offend that is their fault not the governments .Being bored or out of work does not give a person the right to rob, steal,smash or terrorize

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by martyh

With respect arthur that is all a load of rollocks ,if people offend that is their fault if they re-offend that is their fault not the governments .Being bored or out of work does not give a person the right to rob, steal,smash or terrorize

[MalteseFalcon]

Exactly, I'm bored and out of work and yet I don't go out robbing. Although I would probably get more money if I did do that. Parents have to take some responsibility though for the gang culture.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Martyr and Will, l agree with what you are saying BUT, young offenders will not give a damn on who they assault, rob, and no it doesn't give them the right to steal, smash or terrorise, BUT, if they are running about the streets this what they will do to get there kicks.

Young offenders will feel big that they are running round in a gang, and think they are jack the lad, only to get nick for ASB.

What has to happen is that have MORE police on the street, with a zero tolerance and will then start on getting these youths into doing something useless.

What young people is jobs, but the government needs to do more about solving the problem of youth crime.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Martyr and Will, l agree with what you are saying BUT, young offenders will not give a damn on who they assault, rob, and no it doesn't give them the right to steal, smash or terrorise, BUT, if they are running about the streets this what they will do to get there kicks.

Young offenders will feel big that they are running round in a gang, and think they are jack the lad, only to get nick for ASB.

What has to happen is that have MORE police on the street, with a zero tolerance and will then start on getting these youths into doing something useless.

What young people is jobs, but the government needs to do more about solving the problem of youth crime.

over the last 20 or so yrs the various governments have thrown money at the problem ,giving money to youth schemes ,more police ,tougher sentences ,even holidays for the little scroats but it has not worked so why keep throwing money at it .The answer lies within the families of these people not the corridors of parliament

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What the government have to do is to find funding to get youths and young adults off our streets.

NOT every young kid is a thug, but tell me how many youths re-offend as there is nothing to do, but cause trouble, you only have to watch these Tv shows about street crime, and the majority are of young adults on the streets after 10/11 pm at night.

We have to have a government that can find the money that can gets this young adults back into jobs, but there isn't anything out there for them to do this.

Its ok for the government to find the funds, but they have to do more to get people out there that will make sure that young adults have something to do.

I worked in Feltham Remand Centre, and l cannot believe the amount of kids that re-offend, yes they get training inside, but then its left up to an overstretched probation service to make sure they stay out of trouble.

I know of young adults that have been in an out of YOI for most of the young lifes, Its these youths that need help, and this is where you need the funding to find work for them, if you look at it to keep a young adult in prison it is approx £1.500 If you took this on the outside, it would be half that amount to put him him a job and save the tas payer money.

As for the parent situation, yes it is up to the parent to guide there son or daughter, but if they are punished by the parent, then you get into the 'don't hit kids etc brigade'.

We need more police officers on the streets, and this can only be done by putting the funding there.

The problem usually starts long before they get to employment age, therefore the responsibility lies firmly with the parents not government.

[papa smurf]

a lot of these young toe-rags just need a good back hand around the head ,they've grown no sorry been dragged up by older toe rags with no idea of morals or discipline ,it needs stopping before they spawn another generation

[Arthurgray50@blu]

What l would do is this:
Any money given by the government would be to find employment for the young adults, BUT this cannot happen as we know that some companies have given up on the Work Free for benefit.

We have to open up community Centres where these young adults can go, as at the moment l don't think that there are any open due to the cutbacks.

We must find something that they can do, but some young adults just want to go an cause aggro, this is where the extra money should go - extra policing on the streets, and this won't happen due to cutbacks.

Make YOI or Prison more tougher than what they are, when young adults go to prison, they should go in for training schemes and before they are released - find jobs for them in local businesses that are prepared to take them on. IF they don't have employment when they get released early, then they have to report daily to a Centre, where continuous training will be given.

The major problem on our streets is that young adults don't have anything to do, Yes parents must play a part in the guidance of the kids, but sometimes this won't happen.

When l was a kid, if l committed any sort of ASB or crime, not only would l get a clip round the ear by our local booby, we would get a whack from my dad, and you wouldn't sit down for a week - sadly today that is NOT allowed by the do gooders of this country, who sad to that you shouldn't hit kids. It didn't do me any harm.

Or put them in the armed services.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What l would do is this:
Any money given by the government would be to find employment for the young adults, BUT this cannot happen as we know that some companies have given up on the Work Free for benefit.

We have to open up community Centres where these young adults can go, as at the moment l don't think that there are any open due to the cutbacks.

We must find something that they can do, but some young adults just want to go an cause aggro, this is where the extra money should go - extra policing on the streets, and this won't happen due to cutbacks.

Make YOI or Prison more tougher than what they are, when young adults go to prison, they should go in for training schemes and before they are released - find jobs for them in local businesses that are prepared to take them on. IF they don't have employment when they get released early, then they have to report daily to a Centre, where continuous training will be given.

The major problem on our streets is that young adults don't have anything to do, Yes parents must play a part in the guidance of the kids, but sometimes this won't happen.

When l was a kid, if l committed any sort of ASB or crime, not only would l get a clip round the ear by our local booby, we would get a whack from my dad, and you wouldn't sit down for a week - sadly today that is NOT allowed by the do gooders of this country, who sad to that you shouldn't hit kids. It didn't do me any harm.

Or put them in the armed services.

Arthur, I agree a clip around the ear and a whack from my dad never did any harm either.

But, and you knew there was going to be a but... I never had government setting up schemes for something to do when I was younger, just like others of my age I found something to do. This something to do didn't involve congregating in large groups, being loutish, threatening, committing vandalism or mugging people. etc etc. (I see this in parts of Cardiff where people are afraid to walk)

Parents and young adults are the ones who need to deal with the problem.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What l would do is this:
Any money given by the government would be to find employment for the young adults, BUT this cannot happen as we know that some companies have given up on the Work Free for benefit.

We have to open up community Centres where these young adults can go, as at the moment l don't think that there are any open due to the cutbacks.

We must find something that they can do, but some young adults just want to go an cause aggro, this is where the extra money should go - extra policing on the streets, and this won't happen due to cutbacks.

Make YOI or Prison more tougher than what they are, when young adults go to prison, they should go in for training schemes and before they are released - find jobs for them in local businesses that are prepared to take them on. IF they don't have employment when they get released early, then they have to report daily to a Centre, where continuous training will be given.

The major problem on our streets is that young adults don't have anything to do, Yes parents must play a part in the guidance of the kids, but sometimes this won't happen.

When l was a kid, if l committed any sort of ASB or crime, not only would l get a clip round the ear by our local booby, we would get a whack from my dad, and you wouldn't sit down for a week - sadly today that is NOT allowed by the do gooders of this country, who sad to that you shouldn't hit kids. It didn't do me any harm.

Or put them in the armed services.

we do not need **** in the armed services -i say knock it out of them don't bother talking or pandering to them just go straight to cracking heads .

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Or them in Borstal, if they are still running them.