The Hobbit - Page 7

Lew · 13-12-2012, 22:57

I haven't seen any films in HFR yet but to me, 24fps is too slow for today's large cinema screens. Panning shots in particular look quite jerky to me at 24fps.

Will21st · 13-12-2012, 23:11

Amazing film,48FPS 3D is the future of film,no doubt.

**Damien** · 14-12-2012, 08:53

I went to see this. I didn't notice the higher frame rate, I was watching in 3D but didn't notice it...

I think they have messed up in making it three films. I don't it works and it feels rather confused and padded. It's also looking like The Hobbit itself, i.e the book, will have been completed in the second film so who knows what the third film will be?

cimt · 14-12-2012, 08:59

Well didn't Tolkien have notes that he planned to use to expand The Hobbit after LOTR was written? It was mentioned on The Colbert Report (think it was that show) that Peter Jackson mentioned that they were using notes that Tolkien had written to expand the story.

**Damien** · 14-12-2012, 09:50

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Originally Posted by cimt

Well didn't Tolkien have notes that he planned to use to expand The Hobbit after LOTR was written? It was mentioned on The Colbert Report (think it was that show) that Peter Jackson mentioned that they were using notes that Tolkien had written to expand the story.

I heard that and they're doing more stuff about the return of Sauron from the looks it, a sense of dark foreboding. It's still a bit weird and hacky though.

Stephen · 14-12-2012, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

I went to see this. I didn't notice the higher frame rate, I was watching in 3D but didn't notice it...

I think they have messed up in making it three films. I don't it works and it feels rather confused and padded. It's also looking like The Hobbit itself, i.e the book, will have been completed in the second film so who knows what the third film will be?

Not every 3D showing is in HFR. You really would notice if it was. Cineworld have a PDF indicating which 3D showings are HFR. So far its only 2-3 a day at some sites.

**Damien** · 14-12-2012, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Not every 3D showing is in HFR. You really would notice if it was. Cineworld have a PDF indicating which 3D showings are HFR. So far its only 2-3 a day at some sites.

Ah yeah. I wasn't sure, additionally because I was watching in 3D I thought I might confuse it with the 3D stuff. I don't like watching in 3D but they've seemed to notice that it's not especially popular so decided to limit the 2D showings.

Stephen · 14-12-2012, 11:02

Well they shot it in 3D so want to get the most amount of money from it.

I've a ticket booked for a HFR 3D showing tomorrow morning. It sounds interesting due to having no motion blur during fast moving scenes. I imagine if it works out then action movies will benefit from the HFR the most.

denphone · 03-01-2013, 17:53

'The Hobbit' Wins The Holiday Box Office

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothyp...ay-box-office/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmb...-pi-box-office

Impressive to say the least.

Tezcatlipoca · 03-01-2013, 18:02

I still haven't seen this. I'm going to try and go this weekend. Standard 2D, though, as none of the cinemas in Cambridge are showing the HFR version and that's the only thing that would make me willing to pay for 3D.

I'm still confused as to how Jackson is stretching it out to three films. OK, I think he's using the LOTR appendices too for some stuff, and adding some of the things that would've happened "off the page" in The Hobbit, but still... three films?

Derek · 03-01-2013, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Matt D

I'm still confused as to how Jackson is stretching it out to three films.

By including long scenes of dwarves walking across some hills in New Zealand every five minutes and no one in the editing suite having the balls to tell him he could do with cutting a scene here and there.

swoop101 · 03-01-2013, 18:36

I hope to watch this later, my sons saw it at the cinema and said it was good.

03-01-2013, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Derek

By including long scenes of dwarves walking across some hills in New Zealand every five minutes and no one in the editing suite having the balls to tell him he could do with cutting a scene here and there.

it also takes 13 minutes to get to page one

03-01-2013, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Matt D

I still haven't seen this. I'm going to try and go this weekend. Standard 2D, though, as none of the cinemas in Cambridge are showing the HFR version and that's the only thing that would make me willing to pay for 3D.

I'm still confused as to how Jackson is stretching it out to three films. OK, I think he's using the LOTR appendices too for some stuff, and adding some of the things that would've happened "off the page" in The Hobbit, but still... three films?

From what i heard that was a descision made by the studio not jackson .He originally intended on only making 2 films but the studio told him to make it 3 ,presumably for the increased box office and dvd revenue it would generate ,so he is using some of the bits from the Silmarillion to supplement the story ,which Warner bros do have the film rights for .
This was all on a radio interview i heard just before christmas ,i will try to find some links

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Jackson is confirming that he’s been given the go-ahead on Hobbit 3 from Warner Bros., which is funding the fantasy project. Initial reports say the movie will be a Summer 2014 release, breaking from the tradition where Jackson’s Middle-earth movies are released during December (and a year apart). That’s assuming The Hobbit: There and Back Again doesn’t change from a December 2013 release.

The genesis for a third Hobbit film stems from the supplementary material Tolkien wrote about the history of Middle-earth, going into far greater detail than either Tolkien’s original Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings book trilogy. The Silmarillion is one of the better-known examples (outside the inner circle of hardcore Tolkien fans, that is), but Jackson revealed that the Tolkien estate holds the film rights to that epic tome, during The Hobbit‘s Comic-Con panel. Deadline has the scoop on Jackson announcing that Hobbit 3 is on the way, and the site reiterates several discussion points we’ve already raised. The biggest, of course, concerns continued public skepticism about whether the basic Hobbit story foundation can stretch to cover three movies without becoming thin (even with padding, in the form of additional Tolkien narrative material incorporated by Jackson and his writing staff).

http://screenrant.com/hobbit-3-movie-trilogy/

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It seems that Jackson and his fellow filmmakers own the rights to 125 pages of the appendices that Tolkien published as the conclusion to the Return of the King novel. There have also been whisperings that Jackson has been drawing inspiration from an unpublished version of The Hobbit written by Tolkien, who fleshed out certain characters and retooled plot points so that the story has stronger ties to the Rings trilogy (note: that’s less official, more rumor at this stage).

Angua · 05-01-2013, 09:07

Martipa (who does not like a lot of 3D) & I watched in the standard 3D format as this is all we get at our local Cineworld. Brilliant film, 3D used appropriately and the story flows brilliantly. So much so that even after 3 hours I would quite happily stayed and watched the next film. Son has seen it twice and he and my daughter are off to see it again on Wednesday.

Definitely does not feel stretched or padded, one particular significant section of the book even seemed shortened for the film. For me it felt like lessons learned in LOTR have been put to very good use in the Hobbit An Unexpected Journey. The pacing, characterisation and CGI work is cohesive, with Martin Freeman playing the younger Bilbo very well indeed.

Best film I have seen for a long time and I prefer this to LOTR.