05-12-2012, 22:29
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re: Operation Yewtree
so what's happened about the "other" celeb that was arrested at the weekend ?
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06-12-2012, 10:32
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re: Operation Yewtree
Given the periods of time we're talking about in these cases I'd really like to know how the police, CPS etc. are going to assess the veracity of the evidence. Unless there are independent witnesses, it's a case of one party's word against another's isn't it.
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06-12-2012, 10:41
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re: Operation Yewtree
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Originally Posted by Osem
Given the periods of time we're talking about in these cases I'd really like to know how the police, CPS etc. are going to assess the veracity of the evidence. Unless there are independent witnesses, it's a case of one party's word against another's isn't it.
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Unless there are multiple victims.
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06-12-2012, 10:47
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re: Operation Yewtree
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Unless there are multiple victims.
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You mean victims who know about other victims?
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06-12-2012, 10:53
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re: Operation Yewtree
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You mean victims who know about other victims? 
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No but if a collection of victims make the same accusations independent of each other then it adds more weight that simple being one persons word against another.
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06-12-2012, 10:56
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re: Operation Yewtree
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No but if a collection of victims make the same accusations independent of each other then it adds more weight that simple being one persons word against another.
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However anyone wanting to sue his estate will have to be able to prove their case surely?
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06-12-2012, 11:03
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re: Operation Yewtree
Yes more weight but how much of that weight will translate into safe prosecutions? We're talking about decades ago and reliance, in large part it seems, on people's recollections of events. I'd really like to know, from someone operating in the field, how the evidence is being assessed and how they determine the truth from what amounts to differing sets of recollections, some of which may well have been subsequently influenced by other allegations (true or false) which have been made public in one way or another. Evidence such as that can't be beyond all reasonable doubt can it?
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However anyone wanting to sue his estate will have to be able to prove their case surely?
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That'll be a civil matter in which the weight of evidence required is much reduced. Failure of any legal action wouldn't preclude a civil one.
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06-12-2012, 12:22
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re: Operation Yewtree
Max Clifford arrested in sex offences investigation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765
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06-12-2012, 12:29
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re: Operation Yewtree
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Originally Posted by denphone
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06-12-2012, 12:42
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re: Operation Yewtree
Must confess I did think he might be questioned over it, but never expected him to be questioned as an offender himself.
Wonder who is next to be dragged into this mess?
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06-12-2012, 12:48
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re: Operation Yewtree
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Yes l wonder who is next.
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06-12-2012, 14:56
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re: Operation Yewtree
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I've been told by someone in broadcasting that in the next few days a massive dollop of brown stuff will hit the fan as other big names will be brought in to this. Certain prominent bloggers have been ordered to take information offline immediately. Very dodgy legal ground.
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35488206-post480.html
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06-12-2012, 15:09
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re: Operation Yewtree
Sigh! I keep having to remind myself that there are more people in the world who wouldn't ever dream of behaving like this.
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06-12-2012, 15:21
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re: Operation Yewtree
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Sigh! I keep having to remind myself that there are more people in the world who wouldn't ever dream of behaving like this. 
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I think we should do well (for now) to remember that very little detail regarding these other cases has become public, so we really don't know the severity of the alleged offences of people other than Savile. It may well be that people are now being arrested for behaviour that is considered disturbing when seen through today's eyes, but wasn't considered all that odd at the time.
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06-12-2012, 17:41
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re: Operation Yewtree
Hi, I'm Max's PR Consultant. and would like to release this statement.
LOL
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