You can't get me I'm part of the Union........

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Indeed, on top of their lack of professional conduct and allegations of misusing union funds, the CWU try to sue VM, try to damage their brand and then wonder why we don't want anything to do with them!!!!!!!!

We? Who's we?

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Originally Posted by Sirius

This is a thread about Vm and the CWU, so looking at your post which you also quoted me in so i decided to reply you have said "and then wonder why we don't want anything to do with them!!!!!! " So do you work for VM or not as your post indicates by it wording that you do. ?

Does he hell,

He's a VM fantasist.

He's probably unemployed in his early 20's, sitting in front of his computer in his boxer shorts surrounded by pizza box's and cheap beer.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pierre

He's probably unemployed in his early 20's, sitting in front of his computer in his boxer shorts surrounded by pizza box's and cheap beer.

Thats an image i did not need on a Saturday night

Drifting off topic again.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Top banana

I hope VM sue the arse of these guys for the lies they are spinning, I was at an investor session where the managment clearly stated that the staff still have the right to union representation at any time and that pay discussions will be carried out through internal voice reps. And with regard US union busters they said the only people involved were 2 or 3 uk based directors carrying out roadshows to explain the rational for wanting their people to have a vote even though they actually didn't need to ?

the management have stopped all union reps from having any time to conduct union business on behalf of any member of staff -so you have either been lied to or your fantasising -Tommy two shares - which is it??

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the management have stopped all union reps from having any time to conduct union business on behalf of any member of staff -so you have either been lied to or your fantasising -Tommy two shares - which is it??

You calling your senior managers liars then? Lots more than two shares btw

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the management have stopped all union reps from having any time to conduct union business on behalf of any member of staff -so you have either been lied to or your fantasising -Tommy two shares - which is it??

Quite right IMO. They are paid to do work for VM, not agitate against it. If they want to do "Union business" they should do it in the pub afterwards on their own time and see how many people turn up.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

Quite right IMO. They are paid to do work for VM, not agitate against it. If they want to do "Union business" they should do it in the pub afterwards on their own time and see how many people turn up.

Does that included representing a union member at a disciplinary, the reason i ask is that we have been told we can only have a voice rep in future ?

BTW the last union meeting held for planning was in Birmingham on a Sunday and 40 people turned up to hear what the union had to say. Not bad for a Sunday

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Does that included representing a union member at a disciplinary, the reason i ask is that we have been told we can only have a voice rep in future ?

Well as far as I'm aware you can have whoever you like. I've sat in at the request of a friend before and I'm neither Voice or in the CWU

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Well as far as I'm aware you can have whoever you like. I've sat in at the request of a friend before and I'm neither Voice or in the CWU

So have i but i was shocked to be told by a college that this is how its going to be going forward. Voice reps are now to take on the role of the removed union reps. I do hope its not true as i certainly would prefer to be able to use a person i pick for it.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So have i but i was shocked to be told by a college that this is how its going to be going forward.

Not anything I've heard, and my manager is our divisional Voice rep

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Not anything I've heard, and my manager is our divisional Voice rep

I hope that i have been told incorrectly then, I would if needed always want to be able to chose who represents me.

Might ask officially on Monday

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I don't, my involvement with the CWU is for other purposes.

You always try to infer that you work for Virgin Media which apart from the inference is obviously incorrect as all you have ever wanted to do is stir things up or try and weasel out little tidbits.

As for the other poster on here all he is interested in his the return on on so called portfolio and as long as it gives a return he does not care what happens to the people working for the company, that type of person makes me sick because they are just in it for the money.

Originally Posted by Peter_

You always try to infer that you work for Virgin Media which apart from the inference is obviously incorrect as all you have ever wanted to do is stir things up or try and weasel out little tidbits.

As for the other poster on here all he is interested in his the return on on so called portfolio and as long as it gives a return he does not care what happens to the people working for the company, that type of person makes me sick because they are just in it for the money.

Of course I care about people I have been made redundant twice - both times in companies that recognised unions, if a company needs to make people redundant, for whatever reason, they will, whether a union is present or not. The union attempted to make the decision on who went fair.

What cheeses me off is that you tried to drag their name through the mud, claiming this and that and that they were going to get their arses kicked. It appears you were wrong, however you won't say that will you?

Also my mate who is a Service Tech (who by the way Peter, also has shares, just like anyone else could, if they simply bought some ) recieved a mail from his director, part of the mail said -

Finally it’s been suggested that if you’re not in a union you’re going to suffer in some way. It’s just not true. Out of the 16,000 people working for Virgin Media only about 5% are now in a union. We don’t see the other 95% having a hard time as a result. You have a perfect right to be in a union if you want but please don’t let the union deceive you into thinking that you need their protection. Virgin Media isn’t that kind of company and we hope you know that.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

Quite right IMO. They are paid to do work for VM, not agitate against it. If they want to do "Union business" they should do it in the pub afterwards on their own time and see how many people turn up.

what's it like back there in the 19th century chris still wearing clogs and doffing your cap to tut gaffer ?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Top banana

Of course I care about people I have been made redundant twice - both times in companies that recognised unions, if a company needs to make people redundant, for whatever reason, they will, whether a union is present or not. The union attempted to make the decision on who went fair.

You talk more about your shares which shows exactly what you think of the actual workers.

The company with regards to technical support is in a flat spin as they cannot replace the 2nd line skills lost after the closure as all 2nd line support was at the Albert Dock and writing a manual does not replace skill.

At least everyone that mattered found positions elsewhere locally and with regards to 2nd line most found better paid positions with more scope to go forward.

Some did go to Swansea but not everyone has stayed when they realised that the pavements were not paved with gold but Virgin Media crap.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

what's it like back there in the 19th century chris still wearing clogs and doffing your cap to tut gaffer ?

It is what a hard nosed tory would expect us to do and are quite shocked to find not still happening.