Just had sky fibre installed
20-11-2012, 13:30
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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Actually, all three
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I'm just a genius, you see
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20-11-2012, 19:58
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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Nope, it's for the modem.
For the router anyone can use any old Cat4+ ethernet cable.
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The data extension kit is basically a plug-in phone extension with RJ11 plugs, pretty much the exact same as you already have (perhaps a bit higher quality though). You might lose 10-20% of your speed (depending on length and quality of the extension) but it'll probably still be a lot faster than non-Fibre-assisted DSL.
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Actually, all three
1) He's already doing this and I see no reason why he can't continue
2) (Correction to myself, it's actually 30m) This is supplied optionally during installation
3) This is what I do.
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Ah. Cheers for that. I was sure it was an extension for router not the modem
Still not really doable though as mentioned before. Even if the PTB didn't have a problem with cabling being tacked around the front door and off to the lounge, to get *in* the lounge would require drilling through the lounge doorway somewhere.
Re. extension sockets, though... Everything I've seen (including BT's official info on the BT site) says that you *must* use the master, not an extension.
I have, however, seen posts elsewhere by people saying the OR engineer was able to change an extension socket to be the master somehow. Perhaps that would be a better option.
The master is in the hall, and there are three extension sockets (one in the bedroom and two in the lounge).
It's a while since I opened any of them up, but IIRC they're daisy chained like this: Master > Bedroom extension > Lounge extension 1 > Lounge extension 2.
I can't remember what the cabling is like, though. Given other things I'd wouldn't be surprised if it was cheap and nasty. I may have to open up the master and extension and have a look.
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20-11-2012, 20:26
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
Well I am getting fibre from Sky on 3rd December. Only problem is my socket is downstairs and I need the router upstairs.
Well the engineer do this for me?
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20-11-2012, 22:21
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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Still not really doable though as mentioned before. Even if the PTB didn't have a problem with cabling being tacked around the front door and off to the lounge, to get *in* the lounge would require drilling through the lounge doorway somewhere.
Re. extension sockets, though... Everything I've seen (including BT's official info on the BT site) says that you *must* use the master, not an extension.
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Like I said, the data extension kit is just a plug-in extension. You already have an extension so you already have basically that in place and ready to use. If it's working for ADSL it'll work for VDSL. FTTC works in the same way as the ADSL you already have, it's just faster. If it had to be plugged into the master, an extension wouldn't be possible on either.
That said the recommendation is probably because you need an *unfiltered* extension or at least a filter on the extension before any phones are connected, which would probably make it look like a master socket. Not an ideal solution but again, it'd work.
The best way to tell what the effects of the extension are is probably to plug your ADSL modem into the master temporarily and measure the difference.
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22-11-2012, 16:53
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
Wish they'd hurry up and enable BT fibre in this area (Worthing Swandean exchange)
The date kept being pushed back, it still says September 2012 on their map, but the fibre checker says the earliest I can get it, is December 31st, 2012
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23-11-2012, 03:22
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
Exchange and area are two different things. An exchange may serve a hundred cabinets, and many will go live before others.
That said if the checker is saying 31-12-2012 then it means they're fairly confident yours will go live this quarter. Dates do not appear on the checker until they're pretty confident they can be met, and often not until after the cab is already in place.
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23-11-2012, 10:50
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
So can anyone help me with my post?
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23-11-2012, 15:41
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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So can anyone help me with my post?
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Have you read the rest of this thread? all the answers are there
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24-11-2012, 05:48
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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Originally Posted by Central
So can anyone help me with my post?
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Option 1: Ask for the modem to be put upstairs as part of the install
Option 2: Get an ethernet cable.
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30-11-2012, 08:24
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
Two days to go. Cant wait
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30-11-2012, 17:00
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
I hate all you fibre users :P
My mum lives about 15 minutes walk from here and she can get fibre, grr
hehe
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Woohoo! :P
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30-11-2012, 20:29
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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Originally Posted by AdamD
I hate all you fibre users :P
My mum lives about 15 minutes walk from here and she can get fibre, grr
hehe
---------- Post added at 16:00 ---------- Previous post was at 15:59 ----------
Ohhhhh mah gerdddddd!
BT Infinity  Superfast fibre optic broadbandGreat news! You are eligible for superfast BT Infinity. 67.6Mb download
20.0Mb upload Now
Woohoo! :P
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30-11-2012, 23:57
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
Decided to go with Sky, installation is on the 14th.
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01-12-2012, 02:13
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
who would u say offers best deal for just broadband looking to switch from virgin to save money. cannot do it till after christmas at the earliest bt haven't done my cab by me yet but exchange has been done for months
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01-12-2012, 17:42
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Re: Just had sky fibre installed
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Originally Posted by AdamD
Decided to go with Sky, installation is on the 14th.
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Lets hope it all goes according to plan.
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Originally Posted by Harryn9000
who would u say offers best deal for just broadband looking to switch from virgin to save money. cannot do it till after christmas at the earliest bt haven't done my cab by me yet but exchange has been done for months
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Only you can decide, based on your personal requirements, what is the best deal.
However if saving a little money is your only concern then BT might be your best bet but bear in mind that you have to take a telephone service with your fibre BB service.
BT are a little cheaper than sky with their free install and half price for 6 month offers but offer more expensive telecom service, are renowned for adding stuff on to your bill that you never wanted, insist on 18month rolling contracts and actively protocol manage their network, support is offshored and on a par with VM.
Sky offer a free install for existing customers and cheaper telephone options. The BB is completely unmetered and unmanaged. The service is very reliable but from my limited experience the support has been UK based and very good. Contract is 12 months. I pay Sky £30pm for Fibre Pro (80/20) and was paying VM £30pm for 30/3 service. Offhand I can't remeber what sky talk costs except for me, with my usage, it offered a saving over my, at the time, BT line and the costly calling plan they insisted on foisting on me.
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