Just had sky fibre installed

[craigj2k12]

Im talking about skyuser. The sub forums are fine, but the theme and layout of the whole site is awful

[Tezcatlipoca]

I'd happily pay extra for Sky Fibre. I love my Sky BB's cheap price and unlimited usage, but hate being limited to 7-8Mbps because of my crappy phoneline.

I don't think FTTC would be doable, though, due to living in a rented flat with a ridiculously stupid BT master socket location. The master is in the hall, right by the front door. No way we could have a modem & router there. I don't think we could have the modem there and locate the router in the lounge, either, as running Ethernet from the hall is not practical plus even just having one thing (modem) in the hall wouldn't really work. I've read that some people can get their master moved, but I don't know how that works and I doubt we could have that due to a) renting and b) crappy extension wiring.

[v0id]

You could always mount the router on the wall, probably the modem too

[NewsreadeR]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

They do, as it fits the rest of the layout, everything is all over the place on sky user

Hello

The login box is on the top right of the screen on our website. If it appears anywhere else then it has to be a local issue to yourself.

Possibly the resolution or browser you are using?

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Im talking about skyuser. The sub forums are fine, but the theme and layout of the whole site is awful

Thats your opinion, but as per my previous post, you are probably using an outdated browser, or you have a low resolution.

If using Internet Explorer, try toggling compatibility mode on or off.

Thanks for the compliments on the theme.

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Originally Posted by bubblegun

Are you referring to Sky help and support forum or SkyUser forum ?

They are both sources of good info but unfortunately on SkyUser there are too many sub-forums which should be reduced but the guys there don't listen to me

If you are the same bubblegun that I speak to by PM - I don't ever recall being asked to reduce them by yourself.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by v0id

You could always mount the router on the wall, probably the modem too

I doubt that we'd be allowed. It would also mean that everything would have to use WiFi, unless I ran cabling to the lounge, which as mentioned isn't really doable either.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I doubt that we'd be allowed. It would also mean that everything would have to use WiFi, unless I ran cabling to the lounge, which as mentioned isn't really doable either.

The modem is supposedly to be always mounted on the wall, though the engineers who did my install explained why and left it up to me to do whatever.

Installation includes a free up-to-20m data extension kit which is basically an ethernet cable that plugs into the master socket and lets you site the modem that far away.

Where is the current ADSL router and what's stopping you putting a FTTC router in exactly the same place?

[Tezcatlipoca]

The ADSL router is in the TV corner in the lounge, plugged into a phone extension socket.

Can't have a fibre modem there, as they need to be plugged into the master.

Can't have a fibre router there, and the fibre modem in the hallway, as running cabling from the hall to the lounge is not really doable. Length isn't an issue, but the route of the cabling is. One door to go around, another to go through.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by NewsreadeR

Thats your opinion, but as per my previous post, you are probably using an outdated browser, or you have a low resolution.

Latest version of Chrome, FireFox, IE, the sire layout doesnt change

Also, my resolution is 1920x1080, hardly low

Originally Posted by NewsreadeR

If using Internet Explorer, try toggling compatibility mode on or off.

Don't use IE, its only there for testing any websites I build

Originally Posted by NewsreadeR

Thanks for the compliments on the theme.

Don't mean to be harsh, im just explaining that's one of the reasons why I don't use the forum unless necessary, you're not alone, I don't like using thinkbroadband forum either

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Can't have a fibre modem there, as they need to be plugged into the master.

No they don't... They wouldn't offer extension kits as standard if that were the case.

Can't have a fibre router there, and the fibre modem in the hallway, as running cabling from the hall to the lounge is not really doable. Length isn't an issue, but the route of the cabling is. One door to go around, another to go through.

But you already have the existing phone extension cabling, you could probably re-use that.

[Tezcatlipoca]

I thought that the extension kits were for the router, not the modem?

[NewsreadeR]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Latest version of Chrome, FireFox, IE, the sire layout doesnt change

Also, my resolution is 1920x1080, hardly low

So you cannot see the Log in or Sign up text top right on the forums?

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I thought that the extension kits were for the router, not the modem?

i think hes talking about the socket extensions

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Originally Posted by NewsreadeR

So you cannot see the Log in or Sign up text top right on the forums?

I can now someone has pointed it out, as I said above

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

i think hes talking about the socket extensions

Said extension kits...

[Although I was sure that the extension kit was for the router and not the modem?]

Either way, though, running cabling from the hall to the lounge is not really doable, and if it was possible to use the phone socket extensions (which I thought you were specifically *not* supposed to use as everything I've seen says master only) mine would be unlikely to be any good for fibre.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

No they don't... They wouldn't offer extension kits as standard if that were the case.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Installation includes a free up-to-20m data extension kit which is basically an ethernet cable that plugs into the master socket and lets you site the modem that far away.

[craigj2k12]

Hes either talking about:

using the current extension socket
using 20m rj11
or running ethernet where the current extension socket cable runs

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I thought that the extension kits were for the router, not the modem?

Nope, it's for the modem.

For the router anyone can use any old Cat4+ ethernet cable.

If the active NTE [the Openreach modem] is to be sited more than approximately 1.5 metres from the NTE5 [the master socket], a data extension kit will be required to deliver the Ethernet service [probably in reference to FTTC being GEA] to the modem. The data extension kit provides a maximum additional 30 Metres distance from the NTE5 [the master socket] and can be routed internally or externally to an additional data extension point where the active NTE [the Openreach modem] can then be connected. The data extension kit is a chargeable addition; CP‟s are advised to determine whether this kit is required for their End Users in advance of an order being placed

and

FTTC demarcation rules are as follows - The NTE5 is the Network Termination Point of the Openreach access network within the end user’s premises, although Openreach also maintains the active NTE. The active NTE is the FTTC VDSL modem and will be located close to a power source and the desired service location. The active NTE can be located separately from the NTE5 and can be connected via Data Extension Kit (DEK) cabling up to a length of 30m. Any Openreach-installed data extension wiring comes with a one-year warranty and becomes the end user’s property

The data extension kit is basically a plug-in phone extension with RJ11 plugs, pretty much the exact same as you already have (perhaps a bit higher quality though). You might lose 10-20% of your speed (depending on length and quality of the extension) but it'll probably still be a lot faster than non-Fibre-assisted DSL.

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Hes either talking about:

using the current extension socket
using 20m rj11
or running ethernet where the current extension socket cable runs

Actually, all three
1) He's already doing this and I see no reason why he can't continue
2) (Correction to myself, it's actually 30m) This is supplied optionally during installation
3) This is what I do.