You can't get me I'm part of the Union........

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The membership of the CWU within VM has grown a lot recently. I think that is why there is a sudden move to get them unrecognised.

locally in my team we are 80% cwu membership , and given that the area where i live and work has never been known as a big supporter of trades unions i think it shows a measure of support that the company are in denial about .

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

locally in my team we are 80% cwu membership , and given that the area where i live and work has never been known as a big supporter of trades unions i think it shows a measure of support that the company are in denial about .

97% in our office

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

97% in our office

80% in my team -97% in your team

is this representative of " THE SMALL AMOUNT" of union members that want to represent the staff .

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

80% in my team -97% in your team

is this representative of " THE SMALL AMOUNT" of union members that want to represent the staff .

It depends on which side of the coin your on

[papa smurf]

i sat through a 1-1/2 hour [so called road show] which was actually a badly written and poorly acted play designed to fool the gullible and dim witted .
and let me tell you only one person fell for it in a room of 30 people ,and that person was the voice rep who swallowed the bull hook line and sinker [but lets face it thats why he was manipulated into the job] ,every one else union members and none union members alike said that they did not trust management to be honourable in any pay discussions , im not saying they all decided to join the union but in no way do they wish for it to stop negotiating on their behalf.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i sat through a 1-1/2 hour [so called road show] which was actually a badly written and poorly acted play designed to fool the gullible and dim witted .
and let me tell you only one person fell for it in a room of 30 people ,and that person was the voice rep who swallowed the bull hook line and sinker [but lets face it thats why he was manipulated into the job] ,every one else union members and none union members alike said that they did not trust management to be honourable in any pay discussions , im not saying they all decided to join the union but in no way do they wish for it to stop negotiating on their behalf.

So you will be happy with 2% then, when the rest of the business get a reward based on their yearly performance. According to the guy I know that's what this is all about? He got a 5 in my story and got 2% due to collective bargaining, his mate in the call centre also got a 5 and got a 4% rise. Note you are a proud union member though so probably happy with the way it's done?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Top banana

So you will be happy with 2% then, when the rest of the business get a reward based on their yearly performance. According to the guy I know that's what this is all about? He got a 5 in my story and got 2% due to collective bargaining, his mate in the call centre also got a 5 and got a 4% rise. Note you are a proud union member though so probably happy with the way it's done?

every thing you post is according to the third/fourth hand information at your disposal -if the guy you know has an opinion then maybe you can get him to join CF and avail us with his opinion first hand ,failing that i dont see your posts as having any basis in fact or reality .

Originally Posted by Sirius

97% in our office

The thing that surprises me is that you work for a company where if you entered share save yo got a massive return on investment, cheap services, all the other virgin stuff cheap and yet people still don't trust them. Not many other companies have those sorts of perks?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

every thing you post is according to the third/fourth hand information at your disposal -if the guy you know has an opinion then maybe you can get him to join CF and avail us with his opinion first hand ,failing that i dont see your posts as having any basis in fact or reality .

He can't be bothered as he is happy with his lot. His view is that if people are unhappy move on and work elsewhere. Btw the post is accurate and no doubt other rational vm employees will confirm.

The photo will holly Branson speaks volumes, it's tomorrow's vm not littered with people who moan all the time or assume there's always an hidden agenda

My interest is that I have shares in vm and therefore want them to succeed

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Top banana

The thing that surprises me is that you work for a company where if you entered share save yo got a massive return on investment, cheap services, all the other virgin stuff cheap and yet people still don't trust them. Not many other companies have those sorts of perks?

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He can't be bothered as he is happy with his lot. His view is that if people are unhappy move on and work elsewhere. Btw the post is accurate and no doubt other rational vm employees will confirm.

The photo will holly Branson speaks volumes, it's tomorrow's vm not littered with people who moan all the time or assume there's always an hidden agenda

My interest is that I have shares in vm and therefore want them to succeed

can't be bothered speaks volumes - don't worry about your shares people like me keep the profits high and the equipment working

Originally Posted by papa smurf

can't be bothered speaks volumes - don't worry about your shares people like me keep the profits high and the equipment working

Great, try and do it with a smile on your face, there are an awful lot of unemployed people who would love to be in your position, possible ex miners who lost their jobs due to union activity

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Top banana

The thing that surprises me is that you work for a company where if you entered share save yo got a massive return on investment, cheap services, all the other virgin stuff cheap and yet people still don't trust them. Not many other companies have those sorts of perks?

None of what you just posted had anything to do with why i am a member of the union. My reasons for joining the union are varied and personal.

Its funny how managers are going out of there way at the moment to find out who in there team are members and who are not

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Top banana

Great, try and do it with a smile on your face, there are an awful lot of unemployed people who would love to be in your position, possible ex miners who lost their jobs due to union activity

there are job vacancies on networks
if you can
work on
hfc equipment [all street based architecture]
lasers
receivers
ubr's
fpm's
rpm's
can fibre splice
build a fibre network/mainain
can copper joint
build a copper network
maintain copper network /fault and repair
build and maintain hfc network[ fibre/coaxial]
can work on /build configure /commission sdh /mux transmission from system x switch
can work on your own
and can be on emergency call out for all of the above on your own .
call out pay £22 quid a day 33 quid on sunday -no pay from 1600 -1800hrs mon - fri lieu time only

starting pay £ 21,000 pa

oh and i almost forgot you must have this weeks virgin values memorised

Originally Posted by Sirius

None of what you just posted had anything to do with why i am a member of the union. My reasons for joining the union are varied and personal.

Its funny how managers are going out of there way at the moment to find out who in there team are members and who are not

Fair enough Sirius - I would like benefits like that though - I heard the people who joined got 3 times what they puy in - thats some return!

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

there are job vacancies on networks
if you can
work on
hfc equipment [all street based architecture]
lasers
receivers
ubr's
fpm's
rpm's
can fibre splice
build a fibre network/mainain
can copper joint
build a copper network
maintain copper network /fault and repair
build and maintain hfc network[ fibre/coaxial]
can work on /build configure /commission sdh /mux transmission from system x switch
can work on your own
and can be on emergency call out for all of the above on your own .
call out pay £22 quid a day 33 quid on sunday -no pay from 1600 -1800hrs mon - fri lieu time only

starting pay £ 21,000 pa

oh and i almost forgot you must have this weeks virgin values memorised

You appear to have been there a long time though - so must enjoy it otherwise you would move on?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Its funny how managers are going out of there way at the moment to find out who in there team are members and who are not

My manager doesn't care whether any my team are or not, nor have heard of any of the other managers in my area wanting to know either

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Top banana

The thing that surprises me is that you work for a company where if you entered share save yo got a massive return on investment, cheap services, all the other virgin stuff cheap and yet people still don't trust them. Not many other companies have those sorts of perks?

I have been a long term union member with 3 different unions firstly Transport and General Workers Union within the food industry both as a shop steward and then as senior health and safety representative on site, after I was made redundant I went in warehousing for a major supermarket and was a USDAW health and safety representative and went on to be a health and safety representative in another warehouse for a well known diy company, after this I went to Virgin Media where I became a CWU health and safety representative once again.

So as you can see I have had plenty of experience with different unions within different industries and would never allow myself not to be a union member as the is always support for you whenever you need it.