04-11-2012, 21:01
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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04-11-2012, 21:03
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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What the source?
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04-11-2012, 21:11
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
ask friends at the AST
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well done Ivan and Wenger btw. Not only did we not touch Pods relegation release clause but offering him 100+k. wow.
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04-11-2012, 21:12
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
The AST doesn't release that information? I haven't got an e-mail from them yet...
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04-11-2012, 21:21
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
Ask a friend at the AST. I didn't say they released the information or will email you.
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05-11-2012, 13:33
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
I know he is not everyone's favourite person, but doesn't Robbie Savage talk some sense in his analysis of Arsenal's failings against Man Utd?
Article Here
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05-11-2012, 14:39
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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I know he is not everyone's favourite person, but doesn't Robbie Savage talk some sense in his analysis of Arsenal's failings against Man Utd?
Article Here
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Yes its not that often l agree with him.
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05-11-2012, 15:26
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
Why Podolski is on £100k a week is beyond me. Arsenal needed to replace RVP and brought in two players that will never come close. Lets be fair, RVP had one amazing season for Arsenal so the truth is Arsenal never actually replaced Thierry Henry.
If Arsenal can get a guy that can score that amount every season then your laughing.
Santi Cazorla was the best signing of the bunch.
Those figures are ridiculous, the fact someone like Per Mertesacker is on £80,000. I hope for Arsenal sake those figures are completely wrong.
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Newcastle finished just 5 points behind Arsenal despite spending £110m less in wages! The Northern club has halved its wage bill from £74m to £34m over the past two seasons, yet still managed a top four challenge.
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The above down to some amazing scouting and the fact the new players coming in were relatively unknown and could be tempted by £30,000 a week, when it comes to a new contract you can guarantee said players like Tiote, Cabaye, Krul, Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse and co are going to want a significant increase.
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05-11-2012, 15:45
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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Originally Posted by Julian
I know he is not everyone's favourite person, but doesn't Robbie Savage talk some sense in his analysis of Arsenal's failings against Man Utd?
Article Here
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l hope your team gets a decent result tonight Julian as they need to start winning games before they get adrift of teams outside the bottom three.
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05-11-2012, 16:03
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
Why Podolski is on £100k a week is beyond me. Arsenal needed to replace RVP and brought in two players that will never come close. Lets be fair, RVP had one amazing season for Arsenal so the truth is Arsenal never actually replaced Thierry Henry.
If Arsenal can get a guy that can score that amount every season then your laughing.
Santi Cazorla was the best signing of the bunch.
Those figures are ridiculous, the fact someone like Per Mertesacker is on £80,000. I hope for Arsenal sake those figures are completely wrong.
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I suspect they are wrong. If the AST really did have access to the payroll why leak it to some blogger?
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05-11-2012, 16:35
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
why do you keep saying the AST released the information? the Pod figures are believable. well placed sources in Germany said Pod was signing a 100+k contract and the transfer was wrapped up way before the end of the season so the relegation clause wasnt used.
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
Why Podolski is on £100k a week is beyond me. Arsenal needed to replace RVP and brought in two players that will never come close. Lets be fair, RVP had one amazing season for Arsenal so the truth is Arsenal never actually replaced Thierry Henry.
If Arsenal can get a guy that can score that amount every season then your laughing.
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Arsenal have done it all wrong. They think they know better and look where its got them! In 08 we needed a player or two. 1 player who can force himself on goal and able to score from distance and a defensive player. Neither were signed and instead Arsene persisted with faith. During 08 we played a proper Barca style but lacked the real prolific scorer to bed the number of chances created. Our own players wanted an extra playrr or two in. Imagen that! players willing to risk playing time to get success! instead Wenger knew better and everyone ended getting fed up. Now he's changed it and is soo lost i doubt he'll find himself again.
Prior to the summer voices were heard by Arsenal of the worry of us not offering more money to keep players. Its obvious Arsenal have done a bent one and killed that off by giving Pod 100k. What they fail to see is the bigger picture. lost.
We've gone from needing a new Thierry Henry or even prolific AM/Winger to nearly needing a complete overhaul! its incredible.
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Santi Cazorla was the best signing of the bunch.
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whats the point.
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Those figures are ridiculous, the fact someone like Per Mertesacker is on £80,000. I hope for Arsenal sake those figures are completely wrong.
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As far as I know Pers on that level of salary.
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
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Newcastle finished just 5 points behind Arsenal despite spending £110m less in wages! The Northern club has halved its wage bill from £74m to £34m over the past two seasons, yet still managed a top four challenge.
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The above down to some amazing scouting and the fact the new players coming in were relatively unknown and could be tempted by £30,000 a week, when it comes to a new contract you can guarantee said players like Tiote, Cabaye, Krul, Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse and co are going to want a significant increase.
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Arsenal have all the names but when it comes to spend, instead of capping max salary for new incomers so more can be brought in and future contracts for those players can be sorted without a fuss Wengers vision is to hand mega contracts, make them feel good for it then allow them to express themselves. when brickwalls appeared Arsenal or the squad themselves knocked it down. with the recent years of change Arsene has found very few answer or ways to knock walls down. it was simple, add a player or two but the boss has made it incredibly hard for himself and its getting worse.
What Newcastle have done is similar to what we the fans want at Arsenal. We've declined due to Wenger own crap ways. He knows best. We could of been progressing and competing for honours rather than moving making 1 step forward then backwards then sideways. It really is time to part ways with Wenger and get Pep in. Our CEO doesnt understand either.
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05-11-2012, 16:45
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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Originally Posted by thenry
why do you keep saying the AST released the information? the Pod figures are believable. well placed sources in Germany said Pod was signing a 100+k contract and the transfer was wrapped up way before the end of the season so the relegation clause wasnt used.
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Because you said it came from someone within AST. I don't know why the AST would have that information or who leaked it if they did. Someone got hold of it, if it's true, and to verify it's authnicty we need to know the source. Otherwise it's one of the many crackpots on the internet.
I don't believe information without a credible source. I am not impressed by vague 'someone in the know' sources.
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05-11-2012, 16:53
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
when did i say the AST released the information? i said ask someone, a friend at the AST. big difference. please dont put words in my mouth. and why would it be verified? the crackpots at Arsenal would probably get rid of that person.
you can believe what you like. i believe a pretty big chunk of that account.
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05-11-2012, 16:58
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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What Newcastle have done is similar to what we the fans want at Arsenal. We've declined due to Wenger own crap ways. He knows best.
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He has managed for most of his life, he has been in football all of his life, he is probably the best manager Arsenal have ever had and he is still is high demand. He still outperforms his spending by a considerable margin and really only Newcastle compete when it comes to bang for your buck.
He is still greatly respected by most fans. Don't let keyboard warriors on the Internet who have supported Arsenal for all of a few years create a false impression.
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It really is time to part ways with Wenger and get Pep in. Our CEO doesnt understand either.
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What makes you think Pep will do better? I think Wenger would win numerous titles if he had Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, and Messi in his side. That's when he arrived, he still had the additional luxury of the bigger budget for both transfers and wages than he would at Arsenal as well as a harder league.
I think he a good manager but it's deluded to think that replacing one good manager with another will be the end of all our problems.
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Originally Posted by thenry
when did i say the AST released the information? i said ask someone, a friend at the AST. big difference. please dont put words in my mouth. and why would it be verified? the crackpots at Arsenal would probably get rid of that person.
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So it is just some guy with a blog? Information which none of the press has picked up?
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05-11-2012, 17:01
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Re: Football Season 2012/2013
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Originally Posted by thenry
why do you keep saying the AST released the information? the Pod figures are believable. well placed sources in Germany said Pod was signing a 100+k contract and the transfer was wrapped up way before the end of the season so the relegation clause wasnt used.
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Arsenal have done it all wrong. They think they know better and look where its got them! In 08 we needed a player or two. 1 player who can force himself on goal and able to score from distance and a defensive player. Neither were signed and instead Arsene persisted with faith. During 08 we played a proper Barca style but lacked the real prolific scorer to bed the number of chances created. Our own players wanted an extra playrr or two in. Imagen that! players willing to risk playing time to get success! instead Wenger knew better and everyone ended getting fed up. Now he's changed it and is soo lost i doubt he'll find himself again.
Prior to the summer voices were heard by Arsenal of the worry of us not offering more money to keep players. Its obvious Arsenal have done a bent one and killed that off by giving Pod 100k. What they fail to see is the bigger picture. lost.
We've gone from needing a new Thierry Henry or even prolific AM/Winger to nearly needing a complete overhaul! its incredible.
whats the point.
As far as I know Pers on that level of salary.
Arsenal have all the names but when it comes to spend, instead of capping max salary for new incomers so more can be brought in and future contracts for those players can be sorted without a fuss Wengers vision is to hand mega contracts, make them feel good for it then allow them to express themselves. when brickwalls appeared Arsenal or the squad themselves knocked it down. with the recent years of change Arsene has found very few answer or ways to knock walls down. it was simple, add a player or two but the boss has made it incredibly hard for himself and its getting worse.
What Newcastle have done is similar to what we the fans want at Arsenal. We've declined due to Wenger own crap ways. He knows best. We could of been progressing and competing for honours rather than moving making 1 step forward then backwards then sideways. It really is time to part ways with Wenger and get Pep in. Our CEO doesnt understand either.
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Arsenal have no chance of getting Pep as he is going to one of the top 3 in the summer with Chelsea as favourites.
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