Tories again hitting the poor

[denphone]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

what grates my carrot is i get lumped in with people like that as i get benefits

l know exactly how you feel dilli.

[MalteseFalcon]

I would love to work and contribute to the country, however I have had a lot of bad luck. I drifted into doing temporary work when I left school, then in 2005 I took 3 years out to look after my grandmother and got a job pretty much straight away with Ocado. First night, tore cartilage/tendons in my right knee. Now I can't do warehouse work, and because of my poor work history I am struggling to even get a foot in somewhere. You need experience.

Although I am now looking into training as a carer, maybe even a late entry into nursing. Looking into it at the moment.

And yes, Arthur is a hypocrite. Slams people for scrounging/bleeding the state dry and when a solution is proposed cries 'filthy Tory **** trying to rob from the poor'. Make your mind up and stick to it Arthur.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

And yes, Arthur is a hypocrite. Slams people for scrounging/bleeding the state dry and when a solution is proposed cries 'filthy Tory **** trying to rob from the poor'. Make your mind up and stick to it Arthur.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

To MarkC1984 and Sirius, I am not a hyprocite and resent the comment, I used to work for a company deep cleaning kitchens, and worked in a lot of government buildings.

The wastage of food and the expensive stuff that they had would make everyone jealous of what these government buildings had. I speak my mind and yet people criticise me for what l say.

What do we want in this damn country, The government do waste money and hammer the poor, when l was brought up as a kid, we didn't have as much as what we have now. Poverty was was strong when l was a kid and yet today we have a scociety that is very rich and poor.

The rich treat the poor as if they were garbage, and yet give out a friendly benefit to foriegn workers who take work on the cheap, and government say we cherish these people, what about the brits who are hard working people. Its about time they were looked after.

I have a strong support for OAP's that get treated disgracefully by any government in power, l am against people that abuse the benefit system and yet the poor get hammered.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

To MarkC1984 and Sirius, I am not a hyprocite and resent the comment, I used to work for a company deep cleaning kitchens, and worked in a lot of government buildings.

The wastage of food and the expensive stuff that they had would make everyone jealous of what these government buildings had. I speak my mind and yet people criticise me for what l say.

What do we want in this damn country, The government do waste money and hammer the poor, when l was brought up as a kid, we didn't have as much as what we have now. Poverty was was strong when l was a kid and yet today we have a scociety that is very rich and poor.

The rich treat the poor as if they were garbage, and yet give out a friendly benefit to foriegn workers who take work on the cheap, and government say we cherish these people, what about the brits who are hard working people. Its about time they were looked after.

I have a strong support for OAP's that get treated disgracefully by any government in power, l am against people that abuse the benefit system and yet the poor get hammered.

I would hazard a guess Arthur that no-one on this forum including you has ever experienced real poverty .You went to school ,you had welfare to rely on and you had a roof over your head .Before you continue blaming "foreigners" for the ills of society have a look at this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20109186

More than 100 London Midland Saturday train services are expected to be hit by an ongoing driver shortage

how is it possible that a train company cannot find drivers when there are so many unemployed ?

[Taf]

how is it possible that a train company cannot find drivers when there are so many unemployed ?

My daughter's friend spent a couple of years training to be a train driver, then the axe fell earlier this year and almost all the trainees were sacked for whatever reason they could find.

[nashville]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

I would love to work and contribute to the country, however I have had a lot of bad luck. I drifted into doing temporary work when I left school, then in 2005 I took 3 years out to look after my grandmother and got a job pretty much straight away with Ocado. First night, tore cartilage/tendons in my right knee. Now I can't do warehouse work, and because of my poor work history I am struggling to even get a foot in somewhere. You need experience.

Although I am now looking into training as a carer, maybe even a late entry into nursing. Looking into it at the moment.

And yes, Arthur is a hypocrite. Slams people for scrounging/bleeding the state dry and when a solution is proposed cries 'filthy Tory **** trying to rob from the poor'. Make your mind up and stick to it Arthur.

You have had bad luck. They want experience but they should give people a try. Hope you get something soon,

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Arthur

What do you think of this then.

Originally Posted by martyh

He says it's wrong ,but when the government try to fix it he starts a thread attacking them for fixing it ...my head hurts

Are they poor then, 29K a year doesn't make them poor imo, I struggle to comprehend stories like this as everyone I know on benefits struggles big time and yet newspapers never seem to have trouble finding people to write these stories about

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Are they poor then, 29K a year doesn't make them poor imo, I struggle to comprehend stories like this as everyone I know on benefits struggles big time and yet newspapers never seem to have trouble finding people to write these stories about

Depends what you mean by struggle ,i struggle to pay bills ,i don't drink anymore and haven't had a holiday in years and i have worked continuously .I know people on the dole that drink every weekend and have a holiday every year

[jodash]

I had 2 jobs in 42 years made redundant 23 years ago and invested my pay off,made redundant again last year and again have invested redunacy money,was told I was only allowed 6 Months JSA allowance at £67.50 p/w which has recenly finished,and now have to live off my investments and wifes wages

Yes, you're entitled to JSA based on your National Insurance contributions for the first six months. After that you only continue to get it if you're very hard up.

[MalteseFalcon]

Also, I think that only applies to Contributions based JSA. My step dad claimed for 3 months after losing his job. After that, I think if you still want to claim you have to go on Income based JSA. Which is means tested, and if you have a certain amount of savings you can't claim. For me, 28 and single, I cannot have more than £16k of savings.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Not by me you dont

Nor me!

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Originally Posted by jodash

I had 2 jobs in 42 years made redundant 23 years ago and invested my pay off,made redundant again last year and again have invested redunacy money,was told I was only allowed 6 Months JSA allowance at £67.50 p/w which has recenly finished,and now have to live off my investments and wifes wages

Best of luck to you - seriously!

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

I would love to work and contribute to the country, however I have had a lot of bad luck. I drifted into doing temporary work when I left school, then in 2005 I took 3 years out to look after my grandmother and got a job pretty much straight away with Ocado. First night, tore cartilage/tendons in my right knee. Now I can't do warehouse work, and because of my poor work history I am struggling to even get a foot in somewhere. You need experience.

Although I am now looking into training as a carer, maybe even a late entry into nursing. Looking into it at the moment.

And yes, Arthur is a hypocrite. Slams people for scrounging/bleeding the state dry and when a solution is proposed cries 'filthy Tory **** trying to rob from the poor'. Make your mind up and stick to it Arthur.

First class!

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

Depends what you mean by struggle ,i struggle to pay bills ,i don't drink anymore and haven't had a holiday in years and i have worked continuously .I know people on the dole that drink every weekend and have a holiday every year

That's exactly what I mean by struggle, I don't know anyone that could afford to make benefits a lifestyle choice without topping it up some how.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

That's exactly what I mean by struggle, I don't know anyone that could afford to make benefits a lifestyle choice without topping it up some how.

Well unfortunately that's exactly what happens ,some people see how easy it is to claim some of the multitude of benefits and then get a bit of extra money on the side .There is a culture up here of "get as much off the state as possible" and it shows no sign of going away, if anything it gets worse as the government limits the availability of benefits because people are kicking back so to speak and turning to the labour black market even if they don't claim benefits