Operation Yewtree - Page 24

danielf · 08-10-2012, 10:05

I was thinking that it was an attempt to deflect attention. Like, "He wouldn't be stupid enough to make jokes about this if he was up to something. He is making jokes about it, so he's probably not up to something".

But, as you say, he may just have been playing a massive joke on everyone. Whatever it is, he seems to have gotten away with it.

RichardCoulter · 08-10-2012, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Russ

Say whatever you want - if you know for certain he's "going with another underage girl" and are not doing anything about it then yes, I say you're helping him get away with it.

If you have no evidence then perpetuating a rumour that could see someone get in a lot of trouble unnecessarily is pretty crass in itself really.

As previously explained, it is only a rumour. As previously stated, I am not spreading rumours about this individual for him to get into unnecessary trouble.

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Originally Posted by martyh

you are the one who keeps saying that you know he goes with under age girls ,if that is true then you know he is committing a crime ,you are helping him to commit a crime by your inaction

As previously explained, the first underage girl that he now lives with is now over the age of consent. The police have spoken to him about this, but no action was taken due to lack of evidence.

The current underage girl is merely a rumour. The police would not be interested and, as I said earlier, there is no legal requirement for one to report a crime, be it real or perceived.

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Originally Posted by Stuart

How do you prove that a rape occurred decades ago? Bearing in mind that the only physical evidence would have decayed years ago, that these crimes often occurred with no witnesses and CCTV wasn't widely installed then.

Also, bear in mind that Jimmy, by his own admission, had friends in high places, and I suspect, would not have hesitated to use them.

Two of the truest sayings I know of are "It's not what you know, it's who you know" and "There's more than one way to skin a cat".

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Originally Posted by Stuart

He may have had access to a lot of power behind the scenes. He doesn't necessarily need to have that power himself, but if he had access to those who did, he could have ended careers.

Very, very true.

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Originally Posted by Vieil Homme

A question was asked... why it had only come out now...

In bold print was: because Britain's libel laws too often help make those like Savile untouchable.

The artical may be in your opinion poorly written pointless piece of drivel but Brian Hitchen writes for a living. I just love the word succinct

Libel laws are a good thing, I have used them to deal with people in the past.

Without them, we'd have people going around spouting rubbish and/or saying whatever they felt like!!!

I like the word succinct too

Sirius · 08-10-2012, 14:54

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

Like noone saw this coming...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-victims.html

Lets see how many more "vitims" come forward to claim their share of the compo.

As i have already pointed out, This is one of those chances for the celebrities to get themselves in the public eye for free. Why pay a publicity company when you can get it for free.

Lets face it some will have a genuine reason to come forward and good on them, however there will be those who will just say "i heard it in a rumour", Walla free publicity

devilincarnate · 09-10-2012, 14:21

Holy ssssssssssssssssssss?

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Police investigating alleged sexual abuse of girls by the late Jimmy Savile are pursuing 120 separate lines of inquiry, a press conference was told.

Commander Peter Spindler, head of specialist crime investigations, said police had recorded eight allegations against Sir Jimmy, including two rapes.

He later told the BBC there could be up to 30 victims, spanning four decades.

Police said it would be a joint inquiry with children's charity the NSPCC and it would be named Operation Yewtree.

During the briefing at the Metropolitan Police headquarters in London, police said the alleged victims were mainly girls who were aged between 13 and 16 at the time.

Cdr Spindler said of the eight criminal allegations, six were alleged indecent assaults on young teenage girls.

He praised the alleged victims for "shining a light" on the abuse.

"Information is coming in as we speak probably," said Cdr Spindler.

"The reality is this really has captured the public's mind. We are getting calls from victims, from witnesses and third parties who believe they know something about it."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19887019

danielf · 09-10-2012, 18:37

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Sir Jimmy Savile's grave in Scarborough is to be dismantled following allegations he sexually abused girls.

The entertainer's triple headstone at Woodlands Cemetery is to be taken down from first light on Wednesday.

A family spokesman said the decision had been made due to "the impact the stone remaining there could have on the dignity and sanctity of the cemetery".

Sir Jimmy had a long association with Scarborough and was buried there after his death, aged 84, in October 2011.

The family spokesman said: "Out of respect to public opinion, to those who are buried there, and to those who tend their graves and visit there, we have decided to remove it."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19889974

10-10-2012, 10:05

I think if the family have asked for the gravestones to be removed then it must be conceded that the evidence against him is overwhelming especially when coupled with the statement from the police .It certainly does shake my belief that people do good because they want to and not for what they get out of it

**Damien** · 10-10-2012, 10:09

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Originally Posted by martyh

I think if the family have asked for the gravestones to be removed then it must be conceded that the evidence against him is overwhelming especially when coupled with the statement from the police .It certainly does shake my belief that people do good because they want to and not for what they get out of it

People to do good because they want too. Maybe Savile was not one of these people. All this should do is shake your opinion of Savile not of people.

10-10-2012, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Damien

People to do good because they want too. Maybe Savile was not one of these people. All this should do is shake your opinion of Savile not of people.

I'll probably think twice though

Pierre · 10-10-2012, 10:39

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Originally Posted by martyh

I think if the family have asked for the gravestones to be removed then it must be conceded that the evidence against him is overwhelming especially when coupled with the statement from the police .It certainly does shake my belief that people do good because they want to and not for what they get out of it

Or maybe they don't want it vandalised

10-10-2012, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Or maybe they don't want it vandalised

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His family said they requested the removal of the headstone memorial "out of respect to public opinion" following allegations he sexually abused girls.

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The headstone, which was inscribed with the epitaph "It Was Good While It Lasted" and verses composed by a family friend, will now be destroyed.
"We've taken it back to our yard in Leeds. We'll grind the inscription off and we will dispose of the memorial. It'll be broken up and just go to landfill," Mr Morphet said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19893373

There may be an element of vandalism prevention in it but then the family wouldn't allow it to go to landfill

10-10-2012, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Or maybe they don't want it vandalised

Going to landfill apparently -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19893373

Gary L · 10-10-2012, 10:58

They should have stuck it on ebay.

10-10-2012, 11:08

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Originally Posted by Gary L

They should have stuck it on ebay.

give it a week

Vieil Homme · 10-10-2012, 21:52

If this is only 50% truth it is so sad that nothing was done all those years ago Link

Saaf_laandon_mo · 11-10-2012, 09:36

I do think that the people who suspected this might be going on, and by that I mean the people who had a position of responsibility - for example the nurses at Stoke Mandeville, should also be investigated. I find it disturbing that there are people coming out now saying that they encouraged kids to pretend they were asleep when Saville came to visit, yet did not hilight this when it happened. If it was as common knowledge as it is supposed to be, then they should be punished appropriately.