fewer prosecutions for emergency services

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Peter_

All drivers will be prosecuted in those circumstances citing undue care and attention as the reason.

Originally Posted by Derek

Undue care and attention because someone walked into the roadway...

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If a police car is called plus an ambulance the driver will pay at a minimum through increased insurance with a possible prosecution depending on the attending officer and that seems the likely option to be used.

Originally Posted by Peter_

All drivers will be prosecuted in those circumstances citing undue care and attention as the reason.

That is utter claptrap .

What we need is more support from the emergency service managers towards their personnel in such instances and common sense from the cps .Of course all accidents involving emergency drivers should be investigated but that does not mean they should all be prosecuted any more than you or I are if we hit a pedestrian who is at fault

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

That is utter claptrap .

What we need is more support from the emergency service managers towards their personnel in such instances and common sense from the cps .Of course all accidents involving emergency drivers should be investigated but that does not mean they should all be prosecuted any more than you or I are if we hit a pedestrian who is at fault

You do realise that when I said all drivers that encompassed every driver out there including me and you.

Originally Posted by Peter_

You do realise that when I said all drivers that encompassed every driver out there including me and you.

which is why i said it was claptrap ,you or I would not automatically get prosecuted

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

which is why i said it was claptrap ,you or I would not automatically get prosecuted

It will without doubt affect your insurance regardless of who is at fault.

Originally Posted by Peter_

It will without doubt affect your insurance regardless of who is at fault.

what the hell are we taking about now ?,what has this thread got to do with insurance

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

what the hell are we taking about now ?,what has this thread got to do with insurance

I also mentioned insurance post 46 above that is why.

I give up

[danielf]

Originally Posted by martyh

I give up

The text in your avatar seems rather appropriate at this point.

Originally Posted by danielf

The text in your avatar seems rather appropriate at this point.

[Derek]

Ok getting away from insurance and back onto topic perhaps people can watch this and tell us why the driver of the police car ended up on trial for dangerous driving.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-16846289

Personally I don't think it was dangerous yet the officer still faced trial and the very real threat of losing his license, job and liberty.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by martyh

That is utter claptrap .

What we need is more support from the emergency service managers towards their personnel in such instances and common sense from the cps .Of course all accidents involving emergency drivers should be investigated but that does not mean they should all be prosecuted any more than you or I are if we hit a pedestrian who is at fault

The problem is that pedestrians rarely seem to be considered at fault even when they have obviously not taken due care before wandering into the road.

I always say it "How many injured or killed pedestrians were on the pavement and how many were in the road"

[brynhyfryd]

http://www.itv.com/news/2012-11-01/too-scared-to-speed/

After just watching the above program I am shocked.

How in hell can people expect the emergency services to carry out their jobs when they could face prosecution at any given moment. This country is getting out of hand and its time to put these bloody liberals in their place.

As for the Brake organisation, I wont be giving them my support and can't wait for the day when one of them end up worse for ware because the emergency service didn't make it on time.

[Osem]

It seems to me the emergency services are all too often damned if they do and damned if they don't. Having very recently been in a ambulance on the way to A&E with our youngest suffering from a severe allergic reaction I reckon every second they can save (without being negligent) is vital and I think most sensible people realise this.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

I reckon every second they can save (without being negligent) is vital and I think most sensible people realise this.

The default position seems to be charge the driver and let the courts decide. A little while back I was involved in an incident where a child ran out between two parked car into the side of my marked car.

I was going less than 20 MPH and there was (thankfully) only a minor injury to the kid. I was investigated by the local supervisors and the local traffic dept and found to be not at fault.

Two weeks later a Chief Inspector demanded I get charged with driving without due care and attention! Luckily my boss at the time fought my corner and I didn't end up on a charge but thats what the emergency services are up against, basically any accident will end up with someone trying to either make a name for themselves or avoid any accusation of a cover-up.