22-09-2012, 12:27
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Got a call on saturday offering me 60mbit same price as got now, or can upgrade to 120mbit in october for extra £5 month.
Checked my US channels to see if any work had been done and nothing changed, and lo and behold here is my TBB graph for last 24 hours before this post, idle line.
Openreach now gave me a fixed date for 6 dec 2012 for FTTC it cant come soon enough to get away from this circus.
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Have you seen the OR engineers on Hinckely road upgrading the cabs  FTTC will be here very Soon! Cant wait! I will be moving over to BT as I now work for them
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23-09-2012, 11:15
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
no, they havent done my cab yet I think.
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24-09-2012, 10:50
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
seems was a ton of congestion yesterday for 12 hours, then an outage, after the outage I am still on the new US channel but its clearly much higher utilised. In 6 days 120mbit users will be starting to be added.
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25-09-2012, 20:05
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
internet terrible today! getting less than 7mb on speedtest and can hardly load any sites. Tried full reboot still the same...congestion............
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25-09-2012, 20:30
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
That's because Virgin Media is rubbish!
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25-09-2012, 20:57
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
la la la la la
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25-09-2012, 21:32
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
la la la la la

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that far better than virgin media lol
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25-09-2012, 22:07
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
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Originally Posted by telfordcable
that far better than virgin media lol
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it certainly is
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26-09-2012, 11:12
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
I am happy sky are doing 80/20 now it means I can go back to the easynet network. Just when openreach activate this area grrrr.
craig you have latency stats? curious if you intelreaved or not.
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26-09-2012, 14:46
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?

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bear in mind thats under pretty heavy load
and also im using the sky supplied router which isnt very good, once I figure out how to connect my Linksys E4200 up it should be better, 100mb ports and a crap router I dont think is capable of reaching 80mb. I sync at the full 80/20 I just cant reach more than 70 using this router
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27-09-2012, 07:35
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
remember on xDSL you have overheads included so you wont get 80mbit throughput on a 80mbit sync. 72mbit seems about right as I think its about 10%. VM is unusual against the trend that they add fluff on top to counter overheads.
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27-09-2012, 16:10
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
Fair enough, ive seen people get towards the 76 mark, thats more like what I was expecting, but hey hoe. Dont know what happened this morning though, at 5am:
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27-09-2012, 16:35
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
looks like an interleaving bump.
DLM seems very pro interleaving on VDSL  seen so many graphs with it on.
But also if you were swapping router/rebooting it etc. then that would make it more likely.
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30-09-2012, 17:45
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
remember on xDSL you have overheads included so you wont get 80mbit throughput on a 80mbit sync. 72mbit seems about right as I think its about 10%. VM is unusual against the trend that they add fluff on top to counter overheads.
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That's ADSL, not VDSL.
On VDSL 80Mbit "sync" is PTM 80Mbit data rate (basically, equiv. Ethernet rate)
BT further caps this down to 77.32Mbit via their IP profile, Sky do not so you can get 79+
The most you'll get (minus IP overheads, i.e. in a crappy flash-based webapp) in a speedtest is about 75.5-76.0Mb on BT (hence why it's marketed as "Up to 76Mb"), and about 78-79Mb on Sky.
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
looks like an interleaving bump.
DLM seems very pro interleaving on VDSL  seen so many graphs with it on.
But also if you were swapping router/rebooting it etc. then that would make it more likely.
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I don't see what happened at 5am, how much did it go up by?
I've seen quite a few lines with interleaving and INP in one direction only, and it doesn't directly correlate with length of line or SNR. For example I've had no interleaving on my line for 6 months (except when I was messing with the cabling), and I have ~8.5dB SNRM and my line is running at 90% capacity. One of my friends has 8ms DS interleaving despite having a 3x shorter line, 25dB SNRM, and only running at 55% capacity.
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30-09-2012, 19:43
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Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
This is correct BT,TalkTalk & other isps do have FTTC ip profile rate of 96.78% with DLM.
But, for Sky FTTC, no ip profile rate or DLM at all, totally 100% on line speed and totally 100% no traffic management, and truely 100% UNLIMITED! No FUP ever!
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