50M : Traffic Management - How does it affect me?

[Zoom7000]

As I mentioned in another thread, I've just signed up for Virgin Media's 60Mb package. I would have joined sooner, but the thought of going from BE who offered no traffic shaping whatsoever was what kept me away. However, the lure of ~60Mb, as opposed to ~10Mb for the same price meant the deal had to be done.

Anyway, that aside. Traffic Management. I read up bits and bobs here and there on other forums and the Virgin Media Traffic Management Policy and this is what I've interpreted it as...

If I download 10Gb between the hours of 10am and 3pm, or if I download 5Gb between the hours of 4pm and 9pm, I will have my speed throttled down to ~30Mb (50%) for a duration of 5 hours.

Regarding the 5 hours, does this also apply if I go over the limit at 8:59pm? Hence, throttling my speed down until 2am, or does the throttling end at 9pm and 3pm respectively?

I don't use torrents or P2P services, so I'm not too worried about those limits. I'm also not an avid uploader, so I'm presuming I won't ever reach these limits.

Also, as far as I understand there is no limit as to how much I can download in a month.

So, is all that pretty much correct, or am I missing something vital?

[General Maximus]

1) despite what the tables say stm is in effect between 3 and 4
2) day time stm is 10-1600 and evening stm is 1600-2100
3) when you hit stm your speed is throttled to 50% for 5 hour from when you hit it so yes, if you hit it at 20:59 your downstream is capped till 01:59
4) there is no monthly limit. If you download a tonne of stuff (terabytes) they send you a letter asking you to move your downloading to during the night but if you dont use p2p or download a lot you wont have a problem

[Zoom7000]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

1) despite what the tables say stm is in effect between 3 and 4
2) day time stm is 10-1600 and evening stm is 1600-2100
3) when you hit stm your speed is throttled to 50% for 5 hour from when you hit it so yes, if you hit it at 20:59 your downstream is capped till 01:59
4) there is no monthly limit. If you download a tonne of stuff (terabytes) they send you a letter asking you to move your downloading to during the night but if you dont use p2p or download a lot you wont have a problem

If what you say is indeed true, that STM is in effect in between 3 and 4, isn't this a breach of contract? Has no one ever challenged it?

I don't use P2P or torrents, but my downloads can add up when you count iTunes, BBC iPlayer HD, 4oD, Steam, Microsoft Corporate, TechNet & MSDN ISO downloads & the odd online gaming on PS3. I doubt I get in to the terabytes, but several hundreds of gigabytes indeed.

[kwikbreaks]

Originally Posted by Zoom7000

If what you say is indeed true, that STM is in effect in between 3 and 4, isn't this a breach of contract? Has no one ever challenged it?

It's true apart from I'm pretty sure it's 1000-1500 and 1500-2100. It has been brought up on the VM community board I think but they've never altered the tables. I also found that when I was on 10Mbps there was no daytime STM at all.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Zoom7000

If what you say is indeed true, that STM is in effect in between 3 and 4, isn't this a breach of contract? Has no one ever challenged it?

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I would think all it would need is someone to produce there proof to the right legal people, to this date that has not happened.

I set my scheduler in SABNZB to run at full rate during that 3 to 4 period and have never been stm'd at that time maybe i am lucky or it could be an area thing

As for amounts i did 890 gig last month and never had a letter

[adduxi]

Originally Posted by Sirius

As for amounts i did 890 gig last month and never had a letter

Holy Downloads Batman!!
50gb a month would be high for me .........

[qasdfdsaq]

When I was on VM 800GB a month was my average, never got a letter...

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Sirius

As for amounts i did 890 gig last month and never had a letter

I'd love to know exactly what you downloaded that amounted to so much

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Originally Posted by adduxi

Holy Downloads Batman!!
50gb a month would be high for me .........

Indeed

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

I'd love to know exactly what you downloaded that amounted to so much

It has nothing to do with you what i download and when i download and i have no intention of telling you so dont bother trying to make a meal out of it.

BTW you are still on ignore its just that i received a PM about you asking from a concerned member of this forum. Looks like i am not the only one who does not like your approach

BTW that was not my biggest download amount in one month by any measure

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Sirius

It has nothing to do with you what i download and when i download and i have no intention of telling you so dont bother trying to make a meal out of it.

No meal. Simply a question.

BTW you are still on ignore its just that i received a PM about you asking from a concerned member of this forum. Looks like i am not the only one who does not like your approach

I asked a question. It's allowed on public forums

[kwikbreaks]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

I'd love to know exactly what you downloaded that amounted to so much

I don't know and I don't care but if you feel left out because you can't think of a way to use that much then here's a completely legal way of maxing out any connection you may have 24x7 with no inconvenient need for a container full of hard drives every couple of weeks...

Sign up and run a crawler

I did 3TB in a month on ADSL when the ISP seriously annoyed me in the hope they'd release me from the remainder of the contract. They didn't. I didn't use the kwikbreaks id so don't bother looking for it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

I don't know and I don't care but if you feel left out because you can't think of a way to use that much then here's a completely legal way of maxing out any connection you may have 24x7 with no inconvenient need for a container full of hard drives every couple of weeks...

Sign up and run a crawler

I did 3TB in a month on ADSL when the ISP seriously annoyed me in the hope they'd release me from the remainder of the contract. They didn't. I didn't use the kwikbreaks id so don't bother looking for it.

Will have a look at that

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

I don't know and I don't care but if you feel left out because you can't think of a way to use that much then...

Some people love putting words in others people's mouths, don't they?

here's a completely legal way of maxing out any connection you may have 24x7 with no inconvenient need for a container full of hard drives every couple of weeks...

Interesting idea.

I did 3TB in a month on ADSL when the ISP seriously annoyed me in the hope they'd release me from the remainder of the contract. They didn't. I didn't use the kwikbreaks id so don't bother looking for it.

I don't have the time to waste and why the heck would I anyway!

[dilli-theclaw]

MMMmmm when I was still with VM I more often than not did a LOT of downloading. Never had a letter about it and I scheduled my downloads to work round STM.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

MMMmmm when I was still with VM I more often than not did a LOT of downloading. Never had a letter about it and I scheduled my downloads to work round STM.

Same as me