TiVo : BBC Red Button

[Stephen]

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It all seems a bit "nothing to do with me guv" attitude to me

Maybe I'm being silly but us TIVO users should really be at the head of any priority as far as VM TV goes. It makes it look like a second class service to normal VM boxes!

[BenMcr]

I know we've gone over this before but in part TiVo is an app platform. The BBC apps are created by and owned by the BBC.

If a BBC app on Android or the iPhone didn't do what you expected, who would have a go at? The BBC or Google/Apple?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mobes

It all seems a bit "nothing to do with me guv" attitude to me

Maybe I'm being silly but us TIVO users should really be at the head of any priority as far as VM TV goes. It makes it look like a second class service to normal VM boxes!

Especially when you are paying £5 extra for a supposed enhanced service.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by denphone

Especially when you are paying £5 extra for a supposed enhanced service.

The £5 isn't for the BBC services - those would be covered by your licence fee.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The £5 isn't for the BBC services - those would be covered by your licence fee.

l know that Ben but the promised land of hundreds of apps plus supposed OTT apps plus a superior enhanced Red button service that were going to be added to the TiVo have not really materialised apart from the two week Olympics jamboree.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mobes

It all seems a bit "nothing to do with me guv" attitude to me

Maybe I'm being silly but us TiVo users should really be at the head of any priority as far as VM TV goes. It makes it look like a second class service to normal VM boxes!

Well if the BBC aren't willing to work on the app or make a service available then it is nothing to do with VM.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well if the BBC aren't willing to work on the app or make a service available then it is nothing to do with VM.

Oh yes it is. It's VM responsibility to get everything onto it's flagship product. "The best way to watch TV" apparently... unless you want watch red button streams....

VM should be pressuring the BBC to sort this out of find an alternative i.e another channel like on freeview!

Just to say "nothing to do with us" is unacceptable.

Knowing this is an issue, if VM are in talks to sort it out, maybe they should let us know!

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Mobes

VM should be pressuring the BBC to sort this out of find an alternative i.e another channel like on freeview!

Just to say "nothing to do with us" is unacceptable.

Knowing this is an issue, if VM are in talks to sort it out, maybe they should let us know!

Never said it's nothing to do with VM, however the FINAL decision rests with the BBC.

VM can pressure as much as they like, but if the BBC don't want to do it, it won't happen.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Oh yes it is. It's VM responsibility to get everything onto it's flagship product. "The best way to watch TV" apparently... unless you want watch red button streams....

VM should be pressuring the BBC to sort this out of find an alternative i.e another channel like on freeview!

Just to say "nothing to do with us" is unacceptable.

Knowing this is an issue, if VM are in talks to sort it out, maybe they should let us know!

VM can't pressure the BBC into anything. They provided the platform to them and its then their choice of what to provide on that platform. Getting heavy handed wouldn't be a good idea.

Personally I don't bother with 'Red button' features so I am not so bothered.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Personally I don't bother with 'Red button' features so I am not so bothered.

I agree with you , I hate how the red button detracts from what your watching and generally takes you from HD to a substandard SD picture , Sky's match choice red button PQ was woeful on Saturday night , I can personally see more companies taking their extra content , text/news , stats etc to companion devices ie Smartphone/tablets which allow you to continue watching the action on the main screen (TV).

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Never said it's nothing to do with VM, however the FINAL decision rests with the BBC.

VM can pressure as much as they like, but if the BBC don't want to do it, it won't happen.

Can't the programming from the V+ box be written onto the TIVO box then?

It would be a retrospective code drop as the TIVO box is much better and more clever than the V+ box

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Never said it's nothing to do with VM, however the FINAL decision rests with the BBC.

Not directed at u mate, but VM!

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Can't the programming from the V+ box be written onto the TIVO box then?

It would be a retrospective code drop as the TIVO box is much better and more clever than the V+ box

TiVo can already pick up the interactive streams as is shown by the Sky Sports apps. The fact the BBC apps don't is a choice by the BBC.

But code can't be shared between the V boxes and TiVo as run completely different firmware.

So what you're saying is that although VM have the written code for streams on the V+ box (as well as BBc permission for them) they can't write those same codes onto the TIVO box?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Mobes

So what you're saying is that although VM have the written code for streams on the V+ box (as well as BBc permission for them) they can't write those same codes onto the TIVO box?

It has nothing to do with code.

TiVo will be able to see the BBC streams today and if the BBC wrote the apps to switch to them, could show them. But because the BBC haven't, TiVo can't