WikiLeaks

I wonder if anyone has a book on the eventual outcome?

I'm thinking he ends up living in the embassy for the next 15 years

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes that's what I thought he'd do, either that or cut large chunks of their carpet up and stick them to his shoes...

Sorry but I almost choked on my drink, reading this.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yes that's what is annoying me. Lots of 'well if that's rape then we're all rapists!' stuff as well, slightly disconcerting....

Yes

They all seem to be ignoring the *fact* that the alleged offences would be offences under English law, and ignoring the *fact* that alleged offence number four (the allegation that Assange had sex with one woman while she was asleep) fits the definition of rape under English law.

I've seen comments online implying that because a man may not have an issue with being woken up by a woman having sex with him or performing oral sex on him, then what's the big deal regarding a woman allegedly being woken up by a man having penetrative sex with her. I've also seen comments from people joking that they must have therefore raped their partners previously if it's a crime to have sex without consent or to have sex with someone incapable of giving consent (i.e. due to sleep), and even seen comments harking back to the days when marital rape was legal.

It's disgusting.

The indefensible in support of the indefensible.

I don't think it is at all relevant to the topic that we are discussing rhetoric written on other sites.

Assange is behaving like the charges will disappear if he doesn't address them .The overall impression i got from the sermon on the balcony to his followers was that they don't really matter, the big issue is ,ME,ME,ME,it's all about poor old persecuted me .He shouldn't forget that it was his choice to try to expose government corruption and dodgy dealings so he should be prepared for trouble, but to use his political cause as a means to escape justice by the rule of law is hypocritical and not serving what would otherwise be a laudable cause and one i generally would support

[adzii_nufc]

If the US can enter Pakistan and Assassinate the world's most wanted man you can be sure Julian Assange stand's little chance.

America WILL get this guy and it's just a matter of time. This man and his associates have leaked sensitive information including defensive information of arguably the most powerful nation on the planet, His supporters are generally made up of weed smoking hippies that think the government is out to get them.

Regardless of what he thinks he is doing is good, He's not Batman or the Dark Knight of the interwebs. He's broken the law countless times and they are not exactly minor offences.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

If the US can enter Pakistan and Assassinate the world's most wanted man you can be sure Julian Assange stand's little chance.

America WILL get this guy and it's just a matter of time. This man and his associates have leaked sensitive information including defensive information of arguably the most powerful nation on the planet, His supporters are generally made up of weed smoking hippies that think the government is out to get them.

Regardless of what he thinks he is doing is good, He's not Batman or the Dark Knight of the interwebs. He's broken the law countless times and they are not exactly minor offences.

In my eye's he is a traitor who put people's lives at risk in Iraq and Afghanistan and to top that he is allegedly a low life **** bag rapist and sex offender. His time will come and soon you can bet your mortgage on it.

Originally Posted by Sirius

In my eye's he is a traitor who put people's lives at risk in Iraq and Afghanistan and to top that he is allegedly a low life **** bag rapist and sex offender. His time will come and soon you can bet your mortgage on it.

Trouble is he is well on his way to martyrdom .The only way that can be avoided is for the US to swallow their pride and renounce any claim to him ,removing his perceived need to hide away in the embassy and allowing him to prove his innocence on the sex crimes ,which oddly doesn't seem to be at the top of his agenda

[danielf]

Originally Posted by martyh

Trouble is he is well on his way to martyrdom.

I doubt it. His supporters may be vocal, but they're just a bunch of fringe lunatics. I don't think support for Assange is wide-spread, and he's not gaining any by the way he's behaving at present.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chris

What a pile of self-serving guff. I stomached the first five minutes or so then had to switch off. Did he have anything at all to say about the substantive issue of rape allegations in Sweden and the perfectly transparent and legal extradition proceedings he's hiding from in the UK?

No but he was in a rush to get off...

Originally Posted by Osem

No but he was in a rush to get off...

I notice he kept on checking out the "grassy knoll "

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Matt D

He talked about how "a courageous Latin American nation took a stand for justice"...

I did not realise that giving political asylum to someone accused of rape and sexual assault, and who is wanted for extradition via a perfectly legal and properly issued European Arrest Warrant, was classed as taking a "stand for justice"...

Yes, I'm not sure whether his definition of justice is a moveable feast. I wonder if he selected Ecuador as a potential safe haven because of their human rights record.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

In my eye's he is a traitor who put people's lives at risk in Iraq and Afghanistan and to top that he is allegedly a low life **** bag rapist and sex offender. His time will come and soon you can bet your mortgage on it.

A traitor to whom, not his own nation that's for sure, to call him such is playing right into the hands of people like congressman King and the nut jobs who called for his public assasination.

Originally Posted by danielf

I doubt it. His supporters may be vocal, but they're just a bunch of fringe lunatics. I don't think support for Assange is wide-spread, and he's not gaining any by the way he's behaving at present.

The impression I got, is that he has lost supporters, the minute he breached his bail conditions by entering the Ecuadorian Embassy.

Judging by his speech today, he is waiting for the US to give a cast iron guarantee that they will not pursue him any further and or Wikileaks and it's members.

I can not see the US dropping it's pursuit in him or Wikileaks any time soon.