TiVo TiVo Update Coming! 13-24th August - Just got a message on my box - Page 9

savvychels · 15-08-2012, 13:36

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

They've added an option to set a a global default which you can get to via 'Settings > Recordings > Default Recording Options'

Just to point out that it'll only apply to new series links set up after you change it. Any existing ones will stay as they are

looks like we got the update last night. Just set my defaults and very happy that I can set it back to 'on time'.

The one thing I do wish for is that 'overlap protection' would give the option of dropping padding between shows that clash rather than clipping. I prefer to have padding, as there are a few channels that regularly start up to a minute early and overrun by a minute or two, but i don't want that to cause me to miss the other show's beginning or end.

Overall I've been really happy with TiVo, that's been my only 'bug' since it arrived, and I can live with it, but would prefer not to. Anyone know if that's something they are working on, or is it not possible with the TiVo software?

passingbat · 15-08-2012, 13:58

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Seems like a perfectly understandable to me. Any new recordings will conform to the set defaults unless changed manually.

Where's the problem?

The problem is that not all the recording defaults can be customised

The statement, given what has happened in reality, should have said (my addition in red):

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"Global settings – You can now set Some default recording options for new single recordings, Series Links, and WishLists "

Without the word 'some' in the statement, the correct assumption is that all recording options can be specified.

When you click on options when setting a recording, the Keep until date is part of the options, but you can't change it.

Mark Wilkin either thought that all settings could be altered or made a mistake.

I'm sorry Carl, but I'm beginning to think that your blind loyalty to tivo is getting in the way of your reasoning.

savvychels · 15-08-2012, 14:05

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Originally Posted by starfish

Same here, although we only have one TiVo. I like to decide what to watch and when.

On another note, just in case I am missing something (don't think I am though). I was really pleased to see the Reminders function on the list of features - yes, I liked it very much on the V+ and I have missed it. Of course, I should have known it would not be as straightforward as that. As I understand it, I cannot use Reminders without recording the programme as well - well, that's just bloody useless. When I record a show, it's for watching it later and I don't need to be reminded. Were I to use a reminder, it would be for watching the show live so that I wouldn't forget, if busy, and if I were late I could rewind to the beginning.

Oh well, maybe there is a technical reason why it can't be done separately.

In order to switch over the channel at the beginning TiVo needs to reserve the Tuner. In order to reserve the tuner it has to set it to record. If it didn't reserve it to 'record' then another recording could take priority over the 'live channel change'. With V+ it had a dedicated 'live' tuner that was never used for recording so it could just switch the live tuner from one channel to the other.

Hope that made sense.

neilo · 15-08-2012, 15:01

My prob with Until Space Needed is that things have vanished on me when I've used that. I know the hourglass appears for a day or two and says its going to be deleted but I've lost a few things before I realised what was going on. I know we all have our opinions but that's mine and unless someone can give me a good reason why that default is not there for a free choice by the user, when it used to be there, I'm always going to think it is another silly silly thing.

Ken W · 15-08-2012, 17:08

Hooray.
now have my TIVO update 15-3-RCJ-VMC-2-C00

It allows me to set the recording padding to my default instead of it defaulting to 1 min early and 4 mins after which always had to ammend each to 1 min early and 1 min after.
Nice one Virgin.

andy_m · 15-08-2012, 17:29

Got home from a few days at the in laws to find I've been updated as well. Once Andy M jr has spent an hour getting a few days of frustration with freeview out of his system I'm looking forward to finding out exactly what improvements have been made to od search. Anyone noticed any improvement yet?

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Btw, this seems to have been a much faster roll out than the last big update?

windy · 15-08-2012, 17:35

Got my update.

denphone · 15-08-2012, 17:40

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Originally Posted by windy

Got my update.

Nothing down here at this present moment.

Risco · 15-08-2012, 17:43

Typical, I make the original post and don't get the update!

Sirius · 15-08-2012, 17:44

Wonder when we are getting it here in Warrington ? There again do i want it considering what i am reading on here.

spiderplant · 15-08-2012, 17:49

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I know the recordings that are more important to me than the others; Tivo hasn't got a clue about that.

Exactly. So give it a clue by setting only the most important ones to KUID.

Setting everything to KUID is a recipe for failed recordings.

andy_m · 15-08-2012, 17:50

TiVo does know which recordings are most important to you because you set priorities.

passingbat · 15-08-2012, 17:51

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Originally Posted by savvychels

The one thing I do wish for is that 'overlap protection' would give the option of dropping padding between shows that clash rather than clipping. I prefer to have padding, as there are a few channels that regularly start up to a minute early and overrun by a minute or two, but i don't want that to cause me to miss the other show's beginning or end.

Yes, that is the one thing that V+ was better at than Tivo. Because of the way Tivo handles this, and potentially clips shows, I went for zero padding right from the get go with Tivo and have had almost no problems. I sometimes add a bit of padding to the odd show that could have problems, i.e., BBC shows, but I check for the implications with regard to other planned shows first.

Personally, I doubt that V+ style padding will ever be added to Tivo.

denphone · 15-08-2012, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Wonder when we are getting it here in Warrington ? There again do i want it considering what i am reading on here.

Of course you do as remember you can't keep everybody happy as there will always be pro's and con's of any potential update.

passingbat · 15-08-2012, 18:00

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

Setting everything to KUID is a recipe for failed recordings.

So, how come I've never had any?

Besides missing the option to be able to choose this setting, rendering Express series links useless to me, I find it insulting that someone at VM/Tivo appears to think we have to have the choice taken away from us because we are not capable of manageing it properly.

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Originally Posted by andy_m

TiVo does know which recordings are most important to you because you set priorities.

I think, and could be wrong, but that is just recording priority; it won't use these when deciding what to delete first.