30M : Finally had enough of VM BS...........

But that's like complaining that when you bought a Mini, it was fine for just you and your partner, but now you have four kids, it's not big enough.

More services require more bandwidth, VM and other suppliers now offer bigger packages to allow customers to use more services - it's like being peeved your six year old PC won't play black Ops, and Blaming Activision.

ymmv.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

heres my parents upto 20mb speed

That is awful, a contended area I am guessing.

[gj4009]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But that's like complaining that when you bought a Mini, it was fine for just you and your partner, but now you have four kids, it's not big enough.

More services require more bandwidth, VM and other suppliers now offer bigger packages to allow customers to use more services - it's like being peeved your six year old PC won't play black Ops, and Blaming Activision.

ymmv.

Its nothing like that at all, personally i think that is a really poor analagy. 60 meg package for example between peak hours you are allowed 5gb of bandwidth before you are traffic managed. So your telling me that someone who pays for 60 mbps of download speed should have 5gb of bandwidth to play with in the evening? Sorry mate but come on that is rediculous i dont know of any other ISP providing a fibre connection that has this in place. Ok with Infinity 1 you get a 40gb monthly usage allowance which is another cheap tactic to get people to take up the more expensive infinity 2 option. But none of them to my knowledge have a daily download limit before your connection is halved for 5 hours.

Also are you suggesting that a family lets say 2 parents and 2 teenagers should all take up the most expensive option on virgin to get 10gb of usage per night, so that even if they were under STM they would still have 50mbps to play with? That is pure nonsense at the end of the day you and i and everyone reading this knows that downloading 5gb online between 4-9 pm if you have 3 or 4 people using the internet all at once is done in no time.

As i said i fail to see what you were saying as far as the mini goes, 60mb should be PLENTY for the average family but with rediculous restrictions on how much you can download before you're speed is halved. It is like i said forcing people to take up the most expensive packages that they do not need.

But they would be halved to 30Mb/s, which surely is more than sufficient for their needs, as HD streaming is 5Mb/s, which would allow 6 people to stream a HD movie each.

What would being STM'ed to 30Mb/s stop them doing?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But they would be halved to 30Mb/s, which surely is more than sufficient for their needs, as HD streaming is 5Mb/s, which would allow 6 people to stream a HD movie each.

What would being STM'ed to 30Mb/s stop them doing?

30 meg just means the Linux iso's take longer

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Sirius

End of the day i don't give a fig about STM, my connection goes from 100 meg down to 50 meg which is still a decent speed and far better than any of my friends on ADSL

I download what i want, when i want, how i want,.

And this is exactly the point. What can you download at 100mb that you can't at 50?

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

heres my parents upto 20mb speed

Here's my "up to 30mb" speed


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Originally Posted by gj4009

Ok then, really happy for you ... not everyone wants, needs or can afford 100mb...

I can do the same on 30mb though

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Originally Posted by gj4009

60 meg package for example between peak hours you are allowed 5gb of bandwidth before you are traffic managed. So your telling me that someone who pays for 60 mbps of download speed should have 5gb of bandwidth to play with in the evening?

But it doesn't STOP after that 5GB has been downloaded. It does slow down by 50%, but that's still 30gb and only for 5 hours.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

30 meg just means the Linux iso's take longer

Exactly. So things take a little longer. Big deal

[gj4009]

But we all know that from reading on here and other forums that ones people are under STM it seems to have an adverse effect on the qaulity of connection, i know for me it certainly does. Anyways im gonna make this my last words on the matter because this forum is known for its bias towards VM which is fine considering its a cable forum.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by gj4009

... this forum is known for its bias towards VM which is fine considering its a cable forum.

Really? Anyone else spotted this bias lying around? I keep losing stuff so it was probably me

[boroboi]

I can spot a bias right now, it goes under the name of Carl Waring posting a speed test with an invisible caption that says "My internet is fine, theres nothing wrong with Virgin Media".

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by boroboi

I can spot a bias right now, it goes under the name of Carl Waring posting a speed test with an invisible caption that says "My internet is fine, theres nothing wrong with Virgin Media".

Well here is my 30Mb connection which appears to go past the up to 30Mb download and the 3Mb upload and this is normal for me at any time of day.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by boroboi

I can spot a bias right now, it goes under the name of Carl Waring posting a speed test with an invisible caption that says "My internet is fine, theres nothing wrong with Virgin Media".

That's not bias, of course. That's just confirming that not everyone has such a bad connection. It's called balance and is actually the exact opposite of bias.

The OP obviously does have a problem with their connection. Nothing I can say will help with that, but they should certainly get it sorted out.

Not that there was an 'invisible caption' but if there were it would have actually said "My internet is fine. There is obviously something wrong with yours."

[MalteseFalcon]

This is me on an up to 30MB package for BB.



I would like a better upload speed, but it serves me adequately so I have no real complaints.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by boroboi

I can spot a bias right now, it goes under the name of Carl Waring posting a speed test with an invisible caption that says "My internet is fine, theres nothing wrong with Virgin Media".

No need for that. VM operate a large network (actually several large interconnected networks). Just because you (or anyone else) get a bad connection it doesn't follow that everyone does. Similarly, because Carl, Peter and I (or anyone else) get a good connection, it does not follow that everyone does.

Bias goes both ways. There appear to be large group of people on here who think that VM never provide a good service. That opinion is just as biased.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

I would like a better upload speed, but it serves me adequately so I have no real complaints.

Did you get 30mb as an upgrade from 10 when you asked for it?

If so then that explains the slightly lower upload speed; which will increase to 3mb (inkeeping with VM's 10:1 speed ratio) when your area gets the free speed upgrade.

[kwikbreaks]

Originally Posted by Peter_

Well here is my 30Mb connection which appears to go past the up to 30Mb download and the 3Mb upload and this is normal for me at any time of day.

That's interesting - I'm on 60/3 and although the downstream will normally exceed 60 the upstream resolutely remains below 3.

My upstream config is

Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID 58061
Max Traffic Rate 3072000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 8160 bytes
Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 8160 bps
Scheduling Type BestEffort

Now I'm assuming that 3Mbps max rate will always give me less than 3Mbps up because of overheads. Is your 30/3 config different or is something else coming into play? Be interesting to see your config.