TiVo : At last Sky Atlantic concrete news [Not] coming to Virginmedia [Anytime Soon]

[carlwaring]

Well that clears that up then

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by passingbat

We were talking about the situation if VM had not sold the channels.

and VM would have even less channels than there got now if they did not sell them then be lot more people be moaning

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Dave42

and VM would have even less channels than there got now if they did not sell them then be lot more people be moaning

It's possible, but not certain, that we wouldn't have the Sky HD versions, but which other linear channels do you mean?

[Dave42]

just mean the sky channels as that all the deal can effect and no way would we have any sky HD channel without VM selling the channels as proved here in press link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...l-1991814.html

and they doing what they nomally do not letting anyone have the other HD channels like SA F1 ect even more proof if needed

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Dave42

just mean the sky channels as that all the deal can effect and no way would we have any sky HD channel without VM selling the channels as proved here in press link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...l-1991814.html

and they doing what they nomally do not letting anyone have the other HD channels like SA F1 ect even more proof if needed

We can never know that for sure because times have mooved on and we now have nothing to bargain with, but you are most likely right on that one.

But as I said previously, personally, I'd rather have Atlantic than Sky Sports HD, Sky Movies HD, some Sky basics HD, Sky Anytime and Sky Sports Red Button I like HD channels, but I'd rather have access to a bigger channel selection than HD versions of existing ones, if that choice has to be made.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Dave42

just mean the sky channels as that all the deal can effect and no way would we have any sky HD channel without VM selling the channels as proved here in press link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...l-1991814.html

and they doing what they nomally do not letting anyone have the other HD channels like SA F1 ect even more proof if needed

Dave in their last set of financial figures they had 159,000 people take the Sky HD pack that quarter , so that's 159,000 x £10.25 = over £1.6 million a month or nearly £20 million a year , probably so a high percentage of those people could get access to F1 HD. Those figures are on just one quarter so as you can see its more business sense than spite besides VM got access to Sky Sports F1.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Dave in their last set of financial figures they had 159,000 people take the Sky HD pack that quarter , so that's 159,000 x £10.25 = over £1.6 million a month or nearly £20 million a year , probably so a high percentage of those people could get access to F1 HD. Those figures are on just one quarter so as you can see its more business sense than spite besides VM got access to Sky Sports F1.

they could make even more money if they let VM have it even if it had to have sky premium HD to get it on VM and was justing the point to passingbat the VM only got skys HD channels because they sold the channels they had to sky

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Dave42

they could make even more money if they let VM have it even if it had to have sky premium HD to get it on VM and was justing the point to passingbat the VM only got skys HD channel because they sold the channels they had to sky

They must feel it's more beneficial financially to keep exclusive on their own platform , Sky Sports F1 HD (available on HD pack) and Sky Atlantic are USP's on the Sky platform in much the same way VM have an exclusive deal with TIVO as their USP of their TV service.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

They must feel it's more beneficial financially to keep exclusive on their own platform , Sky Sports F1 HD (available on HD pack) and Sky Atlantic are USP's on the Sky platform in much the same way VM have an exclusive deal with TIVO as their USP of their TV service.

im personally not bothered about F1HD and SA but know theres lots on here that would like them but it aint gonna happen sky will never let VM have them

[Daz555]

This sort of thing just encourages piracy/illegal downloads. I remember reading about the huge UK spike in torrent downloads when Sky and Virgin fell out last time and Virgin customers lost the ability to watch 24 legally.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Daz555

This sort of thing just encourages piracy/illegal downloads. I remember reading about the huge UK spike in torrent downloads when Sky and Virgin fell out last time and Virgin customers lost the ability to watch 24 legally.

exactly and sky losing lot of money just out of spite with them with holding the channels

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Dave42

exactly and sky losing lot of money just out of spite with them with holding the channels

And l suspect overall they do not gain that many customers by this spiteful intransigent stance.

Originally Posted by denphone

And l suspect overall they do not gain that many customers by this spiteful intransigent stance.

Hugely eloquent use of language Den, well stated. Thank you for your friendship, not having a great time at the moment. It's very reassuring to have someone who cares

[andy_m]

I dislike Sky, but from a business point of view they are a success story. The decision to withhold some channels will be based on sound business principles, not spite.

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by andy_m

I dislike Sky, but from a business point of view they are a success story. The decision to withhold some channels will be based on sound business principles, not spite.

Plus there is no point in looking at just the channel in isolation. Atlantic plus Sky Go plus apps plus HD content etc all add up together to diffrenciate the product and try and make it hard for Sky customers to leave in for VM unless it is purely a financial decision.