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Old 04-07-2012, 10:42   #16
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Re: Is it worth coming back yet?

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And how often does that happen? Once a year during Wimbledon? Occasionally when any Live sport is shown?

Yes, I agree it shouldn't happen but I wouldn't call it a "major" drawback given how irregularly it happens.
How ever often it may or may not happen its a problem ( Is it common to all PVRs, I have no idea hence the question). Now if it worked in these cases that would be good (ADD TO MY WISH LIST )

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Then you would be wrong. Those are the original functions of the Tivo. And, in the case of Series Links, an essential basic function of any DVR.

If you don't need then, don't get a Tivo and save yourself some money and just get a standard VHD box which (AFAIK) includes a full 'red button' service.
I only "got" a TiVo as Virgin were GIVING them away , and offering a bribe every month to take one
Personally I feel that any one paying good money of one ,felt they have to defend a poor decision. yet again I say Emperors new clothes. This comes from the ex owner of a Laser Disc player !!!
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Old 04-07-2012, 10:45   #17
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How ever often it may or may not happen its a problem.
Which, of course, I agreed with.
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(Is it common to all PVRs, I have no idea hence the question).
Actually no. I think both Sky+ and Freeview have dynamic EPGs. The difference being that the EPG on those platforms are under direct control of the broadcaster whereas VM's (because it's a closed system) is run by a third-party.
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Which, of course, I agreed with.

Actually no. I think both Sky+ and Freeview have dynamic EPGs. The difference being that the EPG on those platforms are under direct control of the broadcaster whereas VM's (because it's a closed system) is run by a third-party.
A minus point then if you were thinking of moving to Virgin
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A small minus point, depending on how much you like Sport I suppose.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:28   #20
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Re: Is it worth coming back yet?

Dynamic epg is a minus point for Virgin, but what I would say is that it tends to happen on channels which Virgin also operates a catch up service for, and the TiVo box makes it very easy to find repeat showings. I'd like a dynamic epg, I think it's the next thing Virgin should concentrate on, but I consider it a minor irritation rather than a major drawback.
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A small minus point, depending on how much you like Sport I suppose.
Or conversely the programme dropped/ put back / channel changed because of over run
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Dynamic epg is a minus point for Virgin, but what I would say is that it tends to happen on channels which Virgin also operates a catch up service for, and the TiVo box makes it very easy to find repeat showings. I'd like a dynamic epg, I think it's the next thing Virgin should concentrate on, but I consider it a minor irritation rather than a major drawback.
Indeed, Andy.

Of course, Tivo always when a programme is live (like the Tennis) and so always asks if you want to add an hour (or more or less) to the recording. Of course, this won't help with channel changes but at least it's there.

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Or conversely the programme dropped/ put back / channel changed because o over run
Well, like I said, it can add an hours padding if you like. Yes, doesn't allow for every conceivable option but, in the absence of a DEPG it's okay.
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Re: Is it worth coming back yet?

The option to add padding is good, but I think the issue is more for those who don't like sport and come to watch a recorded show only to find they've got the end of something which has overrun rather than the show which they actually wanted to watch. Like I say, this is where catch up and the TiVo features come in.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:40   #24
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The option to add padding is good, but I think the issue is more for those who don't like sport and come to watch a recorded show only to find they've got the end of something which has overrun rather than the show which they actually wanted to watch. Like I say, this is where catch up and the TiVo features come in.
OK an example.

Casualty was due to follow the tennis. It was dropped ( As it happens she who must be obeyed) was watch the tennis anyhow. Normally its always a record option. Padding would not help, best hope (if you do not track it your self ) Is is that it all goes back a week ( so being picked up, one hopes)

It is something that if it could be "picked up" would be great. As I say no amount of padding would help in this type of case

Even I would agree that its not really a TiVo fault,Just a problem that has long existed,that still awaits a solution Unless D-EPG does solve this. I have no idea by the way,if it does or does not.
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Re: Is it worth coming back yet?

Yes, that's what I'm saying, padding wouldn't help the Casualty fan, it would only help the sports fan who's chosen to record the tennis rather than watch it live. Fortunately TiVo allows you to easily see when the episode of Casualty that you missed will be repeated, and also allows you to watch I player on your TV.
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But will TiVo record the postponed episode? I suspect not because the box thinks it has already recorded it. We will see next week.
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I don't think it will either.
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But will TiVo record the postponed episode? I suspect not because the box thinks it has already recorded it. We will see next week.
My guess is it will all be the BBC`s fault As the TiVo did not understand it & they should have got it right
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Re: Is it worth coming back yet?

A good question. If the episode is postponed will the Tivo record it? If you select only new episodes is Tivo that discerning? I ask simply because I have no idea, given that we don't record live broadcasts.
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A good question. If the episode is postponed will the Tivo record it? If you select only new episodes is Tivo that discerning? I ask simply because I have no idea, given that we don't record live broadcasts.
Hence my comment blame the BBC how ever they list it if TiVo does not pick it up it will be there fault

And yes we have "new only" as it appears from time to time on other channels.
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