Euro 2012

Originally Posted by gazzae

Only 3 of the Italian squad play outside Italy.

They don't quite as much much competition for places either however. It's not a hard and fast rule anyway. Spain don't have many players who play outside Spain, although quite a few did previously, but it's more about the drive and ambition to play football. If you can't play football then go where you can play football at the highest level possible. It's indicative of an attitude that is only part of what is costing us.

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Originally Posted by chris9991

That was the main downer I saw as well but if they were played on similar dates then it might make it possible either that or next time just put out a squad of Championship players just to compare the quality level

Club level is a fine place for players to learn. I don't really see the need to increase the internationals, we know the quality of the players as they play every week.

We need better players. Everything else will have only a minor impact at best.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Damien

We need better players. Everything else will have only a minor impact at best.

Perhaps a limit on the number of foreign players club teams can field would help. Personally, I think it might be good for football as a whole, as it would level the playing field between poor and rich leagues a bit.

Originally Posted by danielf

Perhaps a limit on the number of foreign players club teams can field would help. Personally, I think it might be good for football as a whole, as it would level the playing field between poor and rich leagues a bit.

Well we have limits on who you can name in a 25 man team, the homegrown rule but EU regulations mean you can't make them be English.

I think that isn't the problem however. Increased competitiveness is good. It's just England players need to go to these other leagues to get experience. Artificially reducing the quality required to break into EPL Champions League teams will just hurt the squad imo.

[gazzae]

What England need to do is to ensure all their competitive matches are held on a cold wet Tuesday night in Stoke.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Well we have limits on who you can name in a 25 man team, the homegrown rule but EU regulations mean you can't make them be English.

I think that isn't the problem however. Increased competitiveness is good. It's just England players need to go to these other leagues to get experience. Artificially reducing the quality required to break into EPL Champions League teams will just hurt the squad imo.

Hmm, so we do. Eight out of 25 isn't exactly encouraging home-grown talents though, is it?

Isn't the reality though that wages are so high in England that players are virtually guaranteed to stay?

Originally Posted by danielf

Isn't the reality though that wages are so high in England that players are virtually guaranteed to stay?

Yeah, that doesn't help.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I agree with the comments that were made on Sky Sports News today, we had the best players out there that perform each week in the PL and yet are lousy when they put the coveted English Shirt on.

Rooney should not have played at all due to his injury and Hodgson should have allowed Defoe, Carroll more time on the pitch.

Be honest, we have to select a team that will go forward and threaten the goal, last night we didn't do that.

I have said before we now have to select new blood in prep for the next World Cup and not stick to the old guard.

Will have players like Rooney, Gerrard and Terry saying that it has been a good tournament, BUT they should have performed on the night, and for me they didn't, same old England, same old excuses.

[Pog66]

I agree with a lot you are saying their Arthur - we might have good players week in week out in the PL however they do have the advantage of creative outlets such as Aguero, Balotelli, Silva, Suarez, Ba, Cisse etc etc to help them.

Bringing Carroll on did just upped the hoof it up teh pitch attitude - slightly unfair to him as I think he is a better player than that.

Defoe? - Unfortunately Harry didn't think he was good enough for a regular start for Spurs so can't really blame Roy for not picking him. Although would have been tempted to bring him on for Rooney who was poor in both games and hasn't done it for England since Euro 2004 in my opinion

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Ashley Young should not have been on the pitch to take a penalty. He should have been replaced with Walcott at half time because he was so poor.

People might be saying it'#s easy for me to say that now - but even Stevie Wonder would have seen how crap he was in the first half!

[Arthurgray50@blu]

England have some great young players in the making, and this is where the new blood comes in, we have to start now.

Its no good having players in there such as Gerrard, Terry etc (and l am not having a dig) but England always select the same 'old' players. Rooney for example should have been sent home as he was totally unfit, and should not have been on the pitch.

We were not playing a championship side, we were playing the 'gold' of football, and therefore should have had the players there suitable for the challenge.

I was saying to my son, What was the point of having Defoe (yes l am a Spurs fan) on the tour and not play him, he has the experience of big matches. At least he could have taken over from Rooney.

[danielf]

This might amuse some people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvkRiH1DDTI

[denphone]

This should please Dan and Doc.

Bert Van Marwijk has officially resigned as Holland coach.

http://www.vi.nl/eknieuws/223516/Ber...van-Oranje.htm

[danielf]

I'm surprised it took him that long. It was the only way to go. He's achieved a lot, and deserves respect, but you simply can't stay after the fiasco that was Euro2012

[thenry]

Ramos! Fabregas! Spain need to switch it up from the go in the final. The subs have made a huge difference.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by thenry

Ramos! Fabregas! Spain need to switch it up from the go in the final. The subs have made a huge difference.

The Spanish coach seems to insist on playing a very unbalanced side, at one point he had 6 central midfielders on the pitch . He took the only striker off then put two wingers on Spain progressed in spite of the coach not because of him.