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Old 23-06-2012, 20:35   #31
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

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Someone who has multple episodes of days off, say one day off one week and two days off another and then one more a week later, they will trigger targets which leads to the first stage of action, they will reach this much quicker than say someone who has a full 28 days off (or four weeks) because the 28 full days off are just one episode. Where as the multiple days off are treated as individual episodes and it's a simple form of multiplying the episodes which gives a high score.

The Bradford Factor is there to trap those who take the Mickey and have a poor attendance record. The problem is, the BF can also trap those who are genuinely ill. So it's good for businesses trying to discourage high staff sickness but not so kind on the employee who is genuinely ill.
Surely that would affect the sort of person you would actually want to employ - That pattern could actually apply to an extremely dedicated employee (someone who's seriously ill but forces themselves to come into work except on their really bad days)

Then again sick leave seems silly to me (another self-employed person. and as a result not had a day of sick it 12 years)
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Old 23-06-2012, 21:15   #32
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Then again sick leave seems silly to me (another self-employed person. and as a result not had a day of sick it 12 years)
You would view it very differently if you were an employee and be glad of it.

I find it selfish that someone would come into work ill and potentially infect others just so as not to have day off sick and this happens with employees and the self employed as everyone is ill at some point.
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Old 23-06-2012, 21:56   #33
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

There's an answer to all the world's ills in here somewhere. It's amazing how much healthier we self-employed are..
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Old 23-06-2012, 22:21   #34
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

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You would view it very differently if you were an employee and be glad of it.

I find it selfish that someone would come into work ill and potentially infect others just so as not to have day off sick and this happens with employees and the self employed as everyone is ill at some point.
we tend to suck it up though instead of bleating about a bit of a sniffle or headache

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There's an answer to all the world's ills in here somewhere. It's amazing how much healthier we self-employed are..

we could hire ourselves out for medical research
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Old 24-06-2012, 06:30   #35
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

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we tend to suck it up though instead of bleating about a bit of a sniffle or headache

Not a question of bleating rather infecting which is wrong.
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Old 24-06-2012, 09:35   #36
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Not a question of bleating rather infecting which is wrong.
gosh how dramatic
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Old 24-06-2012, 09:48   #37
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gosh how dramatic
Not really as you are self employed so if ill would still turn up for work possibly causing cross infection of your colleagues simply because if you do not turn up for work you do not get paid, an employee can take time of sick when ill which is a major difference.

You have a different mindset because that is what you are used to but cross infection can be a very serious matter for another person as they may not be as hardy as the person coming into work with a transmittable illness.
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Old 24-06-2012, 12:21   #38
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

Are you including the common cold and runny nose, Peter?
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Old 24-06-2012, 13:06   #39
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Are you including the common cold and runny nose, Peter?
You know better than that.
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Old 24-06-2012, 13:10   #40
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You know better than that.
Well as you said it included sniffles and headaches, then yes. I suppose you have to be
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Old 24-06-2012, 13:13   #41
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Well as you said it included sniffles and headaches, then yes. I suppose you have to be
Which post was that then or did you just read your own post instead.
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Old 24-06-2012, 13:15   #42
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

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Which post was that then or did you just read your own post instead.
#34 onwards.

can everyone check that someone isn't posting in their name whilst they're not looking please!
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Old 24-06-2012, 13:28   #43
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Not really as you are self employed so if ill would still turn up for work possibly causing cross infection of your colleagues simply because if you do not turn up for work you do not get paid, an employee can take time of sick when ill which is a major difference.

You have a different mindset because that is what you are used to but cross infection can be a very serious matter for another person as they may not be as hardy as the person coming into work with a transmittable illness.
I always find that if i have a cold or similar common illness it is better to continue being active and work it off rather that languishing in a bed filling your face full of worthless remedies that don't really do anything ,usually get over them in a day doing that
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I always find that if i have a cold or similar common illness it is better to continue being active and work it off rather that languishing in a bed filling your face full of worthless remedies that don't really do anything ,usually get over them in a day doing that
Most people go to work with a cold and no Gary it was not me who posted about colds it was Martyh, as not everyone will be infected by a cold but the are other illnesses that you should not go into work with especially flu and I do not mean man flu or those miraculous 1/3 day events that some people claim to be flu.
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Re: Sick on annual leave? Just take some more.

It's well known that self employed folks are immune to the likes of 'man flu' (and variations thereof) and incapable of passing on infections...
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